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Well, what’d ya know. No longer for sale. My daughters will get to see it someday. Yee haa.
A section of whitewater rapids tucked between high cliffs, little-changed since explorer John Wesley Powell boated through in 1896, and a canyon decorated with thousands of ancient rock art panels have been pulled off the auction block by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM).
For the second time in a week, the bureau announced late Tuesday that it was pulling auction parcels from an expanded oil-and-gas leasing program in Utah. The latest tracts include land inside Nine Mile Canyon and Desolation Canyon on the Green River.
The bureau didn’t say why it was pulling the lease tracts, but the prospect of drilling near Utah’s scenic treasures brought condemnation from conservation groups.
Source: www.msnbc.msn.com
Drill here, drill now, whatever.
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Boo Fucking Whoo. I was hoping for another lake to piss in.
Well, now that we’ve won the war in Iraq and gas is a buck fitty again, there’s no need to drill in our own back yard. How come I feel sick?
Nothing about a “lake” relevant to this… But Deso / Gray being saved is great news.
What, you WANT to pay eight bucks for a gallon of gas?
Yo, blockhead. How many times do you have to hear it?
The idea is to not use the gas, whatever the price. Avoidance by a combination of new technologies and conservation. Yeah I know that WHAT THAT IS ain’t very clear right now, but we gotta go that way.
Yes the economy lives on energy. No, drilling more holes is not the way out.
Sheeeeeesh……
I want to get fat, and have the UAW pay for it.
Just say’n.
Pissed!! I placed a silent bid.
“What, you WANT to pay eight bucks for a gallon of gas?”
Dave-
I’d cheerfully pay eight dollars a gallon, however in my opinion the price of gas should be around four bucks.
You know, like everywhere else in the world.
Mikey
This is great to read.
I say keep gas reasonable but lets start making some real gains on efficient vehicles. How many people really need a giant gas guzzler?
Maybe its time those clusterfuck US automakers are seriously put to task with some much more stringent emission and efficiency requirements. That is turn would have an impact on consumption. Of course that would make it unappealing to automakers AND oil companies.
Mikey, you are, as Ren Hoek would say, an “eediot”.
1-Eight dollar gas would pretty much cause what’s left of our economy to totally and permanently collapse. Rising energy cost makes the price of everything else go up.
2-Fuck “the rest of the world”. The folks in (insert loser country here) don’t pay four bucks or eight bucks or whatever for gas. They pay about what we do. The rest is tax, collected at the pump. More taxes is always a bad idea.
3-You think the Eurotrash got shit figured out? Fine. Don’t let the door hit ya where the dog shoulda bit ya.
Gotta go now, Mikey. A little thing called a job. You know, so I can pay some more taxes. So you can go on living in your mom’s basement and posting more idiocy on the intardwebnet. You’re welcome.
So tired. So very very tired.
And pirata, when you’re right, you’re right. If the “big” three fail, they deserve it. They’ve been putting fifty thousand dollar pricetags on what are essentially fifteen thousand dollar trucks long enough. Let ’em figure out what we want (and need) and sell it at an affordable price, or let ’em go. The gubmint baield out enough failures. This ain’t Russia.
Wow, dave. With your amazing reasoning skills, you are clearly not an “eediot”. The economy runs on energy, huh? Do you think all that energy is provided by gasoline? Really? Perhaps you should do a little research first.
Extreme levels of targeted tax are used to drive down demand for a good by raising the price. See: cigarettes.
Eh, fuck it. I’m not arguing with a moron.
“2-Fuck “the rest of the world”.”
Dave-
Ooh, scathing. Sharp as a tack there, buddy. I’ll bet that attitude shows in everything you do. Let me guess… deport the illegals back to Mexico? Nuke Iran? Vote Libertarian?
The price of gasoline is held artificially low in the U.S. in a questionable effort to drive a growth economy at vast social expense. The material cost alone for the war in Iraq is several hundred billion dollars. Environmental degradation is another obvious example of a social cost arising out of subsidized gasoline. “The rest of the world” balances these costs against the end-user price of energy by a fairly well tried-and-true technique called “taxation.”
My business will gross about $2M this year, up about 15% over last year, with margins in the high forties. (Fairly impressive, especially for a U.S. manufacturer.) We can’t build and ship this stuff fast enough. I’ll bet I pay a ton more taxes than you do. I’m Mr. 28% capital gains himself. And guess what? Taxes are going up. The U.S. is the greatest country on earth. Keep the rubber side down.
Mikey
How is gasoline held artificially low, through the major tax breaks to the oil companies/refineries? True subsidies, or maybe the low royalties paid to the gvt.? I know there have been some attempts made in the past year or so to reduce some of these benefits oil companies receive. (not sure if they went all the way through, imagine GW would veto)
I have tried to learn more about the gasoline pricing before but it seems like one of those things that the more I examine it the more confusing it becomes…although that isn’t saying much.
On a bright note however, if the numbers are true, driving is actually trending down for the first time…ever?
http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2008/07/oil_prices_and_1.html
“I have tried to learn more about the gasoline pricing before but it seems like one of those things that the more I examine it the more confusing it becomes”
pirata-
Indeed, these markets are artificially complex, yet the buzz word is “free.” I believe the fact remains clear that the price of automotive gasoline at the pump in the U.S. is way below the global average, and that benefit comes at a dire social cost elsewhere.
my, what a chewy little thread.
it’s not good when people think about economics.
It’s like they want algebra on one side of the equation and religion on the other.
Modern pricing data goes all the way back to the normans.
Price stability is more important than real price.
Free markets aren’t free, Russia was never what you thought it was economically, and none of it really matters anyway,
..cause it’s all about money.
I ain’t got it, you ain’t got it.
Otherwise, why would you be sticking your noise in this page?