Where the Fighters Are Coming From

Like my man Bike Punk said, we’re fucked.

Foreign Fighters in Iraq Are Tied to Allies of U.S.

By RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr.
Published: November 22, 2007

BAGHDAD — Saudi Arabia and Libya, both considered allies by the United States in its fight against terrorism, were the source of about 60 percent of the foreign fighters who came to Iraq in the past year to serve as suicide bombers or to facilitate other attacks, according to senior American military officials.

The data come largely from a trove of documents and computers discovered in September, when American forces raided a tent camp in the desert near Sinjar, close to the Syrian border. The raid’s target was an insurgent cell believed to be responsible for smuggling the vast majority of foreign fighters into Iraq.

The most significant discovery was a collection of biographical sketches that listed hometowns and other details for more than 700 fighters brought into Iraq since August 2006.

Source: nytimes.com

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12 thoughts on “Where the Fighters Are Coming From

  1. Ah Jonny.

    Your looking at this all the wrong way. And, in a perverted sense, you’re actually part of the problem.

    The Internet = The Arena

    Now let’s all eat some turkey and watch the latest bull-shit on the ‘net and forget all that silliness that is happening so far away. Those in charge can handle that.

  2. Saying that saying that “we’re fucked” doesn’t even begin to tell the story doesn’t even begin to tell the story. I’ve got no problem with the whole concept of killing terrorist scumbags, but when you’re so fucking bad at it that you create ‘em faster than you can get rid of ‘em you’re fucked in every way imaginable. When history finally gives Bushco its due you can bet your ass that incompetence will be a recurring theme.

  3. I will wager that the 2 from France are actually Morroccan or Algerian as well. Chances that they are some cheese-eating, wine-sipping, beret-wearing ‘Loic’ or some sort is laughable.

    It would make for a hysterical ‘Sick&Twisted’ cartoon though.

    ‘I will blow you up wiz my cream sauces and earthy bordeauxes. Touché american swine!’

    Im working on the storyboards right now.

  4. Add in the fact that a gang raped woman was just sentenced to 200 lashes in Saudi Arabia, and it makes you wonder why the fuck we’re even social to those savages.

  5. “makes you wonder why the fuck we’re even social to those savages.”

    that seems like a pretty big leap from the decision made by a court that is not at all representative of the peoples will to condemning a whole region. I would go as far as to say that the comment above is very racist.

    from Jordan,
    Tapps

  6. Tell ya what, sport. When the religious and political institutions that represent the collective conscience of the muslim world unequivocally denounce the sort of savagery that has turned mass murder into a sacrament, attitudes will change. Until then I think that a certain level of discomfort with islam and its adherents is entirely appropriate-it’s not racism, it’s reality.

  7. John I could not disagree with you more. As a short aside, the use of the word “sport” is a bit condescending implying that I lack knowledge, or I am native, on the situation. But then again I could be reading into it to much. Back to to point, there were a number of organizations that have condemned the acts of a few in the name of Islam. In America those organizations include Islamic Society of North America, American Muslim Alliance, American Muslim Council, Council on American- Islamic Relations, The Islamic Circle of North America, and the Shari’a Scholars Association of North America. Here in Jordan there was a statement issued in 2004 sponsored by the King that also condemned such actions. The message was worked on by 24 of the top scholars in Islam, and later 500 more signed onto the statement. When taking the list above into account the “level of discomfort with Islam,” “savages,” or any other euphemisms is just as I stated before, racism. Maybe the anger needs to be directed towards those that are not conveying this information, the Media.

    If you would like to read the Amman Message you can find it here:
    http://www.ammanmessage.com/ There is a list of those that signed the statement on the site as well.

  8. I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but the academics you mentioned don’t have a lot of influence on the man on the street in these backward societies. There were public celebrations everywhere in the muslim world as the towers fell. That’s enough for me.

  9. So I guess that you are going to concede the point that there were indeed statements made the higher ups in the religious institutions. This is a good step. I appreciate the fact that you are trying to enlighten me to these “backward” societies, one of which I currently live in. Anyhow back to the point, if you look at the list it included a number signors, and indeed the majority just might be, Imams. I am not sure how familiar you are with Islam. But every Friday, the holy day in Islam, there is a sermon by these said Imams. Therefore they have direct contact with “man on the street”. They are not sitting in their posh arm chairs discussing the nature of being in their ivory towers. The above negates your fist point: that “the religious and political institutions that represent the collective conscience of the [M]uslim world [need to ] unequivocally denounce the sort of savagery”.

    Lets move onto your second claim that “there were public celebrations everywhere in the [M]uslim world as the towers fell.” If you can find me just one extensive report on the amount of celebrations that emphasizes that they were everywhere, I would be great full. The fact is the amount of celebrations were vastly over blown in the media (remember my point in the previous post). A very small number of extremists did have celebrations but it was quickly condemned by the community at large, see the last post. I talk to people that talk about how they shedded tears when they found out, and they still display the utmost sympathy with us. The people in the region displayed the same kind of solidarity that was seen across the world.