Rolland came back. When he attacked, everything was behind him. He came back when told to do so. Attack into chaos. That’s the first rule in PRO cycling. He did nothing wrong, only people with more perfect information and heli-perspective, watching the broadcast, knew what was going on before the French-only-speaking Rolland did. Racing is racing.
Now Tejay, that’s a diferent story.
Yup, when and if Cadel cracks, Tejay (or TJ?) will have that same look on his face as he pedals away…”Wheres Cadel, gosh I’m going to miss him”.
…yep…i believe monsieur rolland honestly has ignorance as an excuse/reason because according to several team managers, radio service was spotty at best…until you KNOW something is up, you don’t relent…
…BUT young mister van garderen, whilst perhaps being the great future american hope, just waved a red flag with his behavior…
…“…tejay…mate, i need a wheel !!!…”…but no getting around the ruthless & disingenuous response at the top of the col…
…van garderen looks right, looks left, thinks – “…fuck that shit…i’m a top 10 wonderboy…he can get his own fucking wheel…plenty of other guys on this team can take care of it…”…
…tejay…it’s all on camera, dude…we could read the ‘cartoon thought bubble’ on the screen announcing your intention…
…as the new, more approachable wiggo would say – “…uncouth…”…as the frantic, stranded & highly adrenalized cadel prob’ly thought – “…fucking cunt…”…
You all watched todays stage right? What are your thoughts regarding today?
Well, Tyler barely got pipped by Greipel for seventh place and hangs onto the lantern rouge at 2h 47m. Go, Tyler!
My thoughts, seemed like the rest day b4 the rest day. Did I miss something?
@guest yeah it seemed like that or maybe even a minor protest for the stage the day before with “tackgate” and all.
Schleck? Really? Well the shit doesn’t seem to be workin’. Was just gonna post that it is nice to see these guys actually hurtin’ like human beings out there vs. the days of watching pantani and armstrong sprint up 10% mountains like like they were goin’ downhill…
I have no illusions that the peloton is anything close to clean, but I do think that over the past couple of years, the amount of doping per individual has come down. Because detection has gotten better, they can’t push the limits like they did in the 90s. Is the majority of the pro peloton on the juice? You bet. Are they all taking a little less juice? Probably. They’ve seemed human the past couple of years, and the speeds have come down (at least it appears so to me). I guess it’s better that they aren’t doing so much EPO that their hematocrit has them about to stroke out.
…top 3 frank schleck excuses for having a ‘positive’ urine test @ ‘le tour’…
…(1) handed up a bottle on first pyrenees stage by a ‘team worker’ who looked suspiciously like ‘berto cuntador w/ a fake moustache…
…(2) ate a luxemburger w/ cheese & special sauce at end of first pyrenees stage…server looked suspiciously like ‘berto cuntador w/ a fake beard…
…(3) spent evening of first rest day w/ spanish ‘hooker’ who , in retrospect, looked suspiciously like ‘berto cuntador’s new wife…she was ‘shaved’…
Tejay is going to regret his move when it comes to contract negotiation time.
Speaking of contracts, if RadioShack/Datsun aren’t paying their riders, why is the team still allowed to compete? If the UCI does anything at all, they should move to immediately suspend any team that can’t even pay their contracts (even if the riders do spend it on dope).
Mr, Chris writes:
“If the UCI does anything at all, they should move to immediately suspend any team that can’t even pay their contracts”
Aye, there’s the rub. Those teams are utterly reliant on competing in order to bank sponsor moola. A suspension can mean a death sentence— is that best for the sport?
screw the “best for the sport” talk. following the rules is best for the sport. that’s why they were initially agreed upon. anything less is a slippery slope.
…the reality falls on the shoulders of the schleck brothers & & apparently to some extent monsieur spartacus as well…
…while the amounts are reasonably extensive, ie: up to a 1/4 of their payments, apparently the riders had asked that the portion of their salaries related to “…image rights…” was “…because the riders had asked the payment to be made “to accounts with non-transparent backgrounds…”, said carlos rock, a team spokesman…basically, the team is concerned about creative financing &/or money laundering…
…the schlecks aren’t talking but jens ‘harden the fuck up’ voigt has been getting full payments – “I can confirm that my money appears on time every month in my account…”…
…doesn’t sound like the team is at fault whatsoever…
somebody please explain the advantage that a diruetic would give a rider
…a diuretic can be used as a masking agent for ‘other’ chemical enhancements’…
Gee, if my company has a problem with a bank account I ask them to put money in, they come to me and ask what other account I’d like to use, or they cut me a paper cheque. They don’t just keep the money.
I don’t care much about what’s best for the sport – I care more about what is best for the athlete (and for the mechanics/soigneurs). RadioShack is dead anyway; chances they’re here next year are zero. If they had the threat of being kicked off the tour I’m pretty sure they’d cough up the salaries owed pretty quickly.
The whole thing sure doesn’t make me want to shop at RadioShack.
Thanks BGW
Possum.
The diuretic that Franny Shleck used is one that not just masks, it helps “cleanse” the system of any other drugs. Basically like everyone used to say Golden Seal did back in the day for pot smokers.
…essentially, the idea is to consume large quantities of water to literally flush out the residue of whatever illegal product is being used, once it’s active ingredients have been assimilated so that it is undetectable & the diuretic allows you to piss away or ‘cleanse’ the system as virgil mutha fuckin rufus suggests…
…& vmfr…never, ever heard that ‘golden seal as a cleanse for pot smokers’ concept ’til now…i wonder if it actually works but then again, when i was a serious pot smoker, i wasn’t in a position to have to be concerned about the amount of thc in my system…
…golden seal is something i’ve used ‘as necessary’ for health reasons for the last 40 some odd years…
…little tommy voeckler, he of the amazing facial grimaces & contortions, is one of those guys ya just feel good about when he pulls off a great stage win…
…is it kind of a boring tour ‘cuz the pelican is using less ‘stuff’ & as a result there are no spectacular exploits by the principals ???…
…no more ‘explosions’ or any of those long drawn out pulls that can’t be matched…the table looks to be considerably leveled…
…cadel lost time which changes things BUT nobody is gaining time…sure, team sky is strong but with basso riding tempo for nibali, their best efforts go nowhere…
…anyway…dunno but definitely wondering…
I can’t believe Shrek would dope up like that. Probably won’t make another sequel now. Terrible example for the kids, just terrible.
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Rolland came back. When he attacked, everything was behind him. He came back when told to do so. Attack into chaos. That’s the first rule in PRO cycling. He did nothing wrong, only people with more perfect information and heli-perspective, watching the broadcast, knew what was going on before the French-only-speaking Rolland did. Racing is racing.
Now Tejay, that’s a diferent story.
Yup, when and if Cadel cracks, Tejay (or TJ?) will have that same look on his face as he pedals away…”Wheres Cadel, gosh I’m going to miss him”.
…yep…i believe monsieur rolland honestly has ignorance as an excuse/reason because according to several team managers, radio service was spotty at best…until you KNOW something is up, you don’t relent…
…BUT young mister van garderen, whilst perhaps being the great future american hope, just waved a red flag with his behavior…
…“…tejay…mate, i need a wheel !!!…”…but no getting around the ruthless & disingenuous response at the top of the col…
…van garderen looks right, looks left, thinks – “…fuck that shit…i’m a top 10 wonderboy…he can get his own fucking wheel…plenty of other guys on this team can take care of it…”…
…tejay…it’s all on camera, dude…we could read the ‘cartoon thought bubble’ on the screen announcing your intention…
…as the new, more approachable wiggo would say – “…uncouth…”…as the frantic, stranded & highly adrenalized cadel prob’ly thought – “…fucking cunt…”…
You all watched todays stage right? What are your thoughts regarding today?
Well, Tyler barely got pipped by Greipel for seventh place and hangs onto the lantern rouge at 2h 47m. Go, Tyler!
My thoughts, seemed like the rest day b4 the rest day. Did I miss something?
@guest yeah it seemed like that or maybe even a minor protest for the stage the day before with “tackgate” and all.
BOOM: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-announces-adverse-analytical-finding-for-frank-schleck-at-tour-de-france
Schleck? Really? Well the shit doesn’t seem to be workin’. Was just gonna post that it is nice to see these guys actually hurtin’ like human beings out there vs. the days of watching pantani and armstrong sprint up 10% mountains like like they were goin’ downhill…
I have no illusions that the peloton is anything close to clean, but I do think that over the past couple of years, the amount of doping per individual has come down. Because detection has gotten better, they can’t push the limits like they did in the 90s. Is the majority of the pro peloton on the juice? You bet. Are they all taking a little less juice? Probably. They’ve seemed human the past couple of years, and the speeds have come down (at least it appears so to me). I guess it’s better that they aren’t doing so much EPO that their hematocrit has them about to stroke out.
…top 3 frank schleck excuses for having a ‘positive’ urine test @ ‘le tour’…
…(1) handed up a bottle on first pyrenees stage by a ‘team worker’ who looked suspiciously like ‘berto cuntador w/ a fake moustache…
…(2) ate a luxemburger w/ cheese & special sauce at end of first pyrenees stage…server looked suspiciously like ‘berto cuntador w/ a fake beard…
…(3) spent evening of first rest day w/ spanish ‘hooker’ who , in retrospect, looked suspiciously like ‘berto cuntador’s new wife…she was ‘shaved’…
Tejay is going to regret his move when it comes to contract negotiation time.
Speaking of contracts, if RadioShack/Datsun aren’t paying their riders, why is the team still allowed to compete? If the UCI does anything at all, they should move to immediately suspend any team that can’t even pay their contracts (even if the riders do spend it on dope).
Mr, Chris writes:
“If the UCI does anything at all, they should move to immediately suspend any team that can’t even pay their contracts”
Aye, there’s the rub. Those teams are utterly reliant on competing in order to bank sponsor moola. A suspension can mean a death sentence— is that best for the sport?
screw the “best for the sport” talk. following the rules is best for the sport. that’s why they were initially agreed upon. anything less is a slippery slope.
…the reality falls on the shoulders of the schleck brothers & & apparently to some extent monsieur spartacus as well…
…while the amounts are reasonably extensive, ie: up to a 1/4 of their payments, apparently the riders had asked that the portion of their salaries related to “…image rights…” was “…because the riders had asked the payment to be made “to accounts with non-transparent backgrounds…”, said carlos rock, a team spokesman…basically, the team is concerned about creative financing &/or money laundering…
…the schlecks aren’t talking but jens ‘harden the fuck up’ voigt has been getting full payments – “I can confirm that my money appears on time every month in my account…”…
…doesn’t sound like the team is at fault whatsoever…
…read about it & you decide … http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/schleck-cancellara-complained-to-uci-about-non-payment-team-owner-confirms …
somebody please explain the advantage that a diruetic would give a rider
…a diuretic can be used as a masking agent for ‘other’ chemical enhancements’…
Gee, if my company has a problem with a bank account I ask them to put money in, they come to me and ask what other account I’d like to use, or they cut me a paper cheque. They don’t just keep the money.
I don’t care much about what’s best for the sport – I care more about what is best for the athlete (and for the mechanics/soigneurs). RadioShack is dead anyway; chances they’re here next year are zero. If they had the threat of being kicked off the tour I’m pretty sure they’d cough up the salaries owed pretty quickly.
The whole thing sure doesn’t make me want to shop at RadioShack.
Thanks BGW
Possum.
The diuretic that Franny Shleck used is one that not just masks, it helps “cleanse” the system of any other drugs. Basically like everyone used to say Golden Seal did back in the day for pot smokers.
…essentially, the idea is to consume large quantities of water to literally flush out the residue of whatever illegal product is being used, once it’s active ingredients have been assimilated so that it is undetectable & the diuretic allows you to piss away or ‘cleanse’ the system as virgil mutha fuckin rufus suggests…
…& vmfr…never, ever heard that ‘golden seal as a cleanse for pot smokers’ concept ’til now…i wonder if it actually works but then again, when i was a serious pot smoker, i wasn’t in a position to have to be concerned about the amount of thc in my system…
…golden seal is something i’ve used ‘as necessary’ for health reasons for the last 40 some odd years…
hm, that Voeckler kid went well today, what?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18865187
hm, what could possibly go wrong?
…little tommy voeckler, he of the amazing facial grimaces & contortions, is one of those guys ya just feel good about when he pulls off a great stage win…
…is it kind of a boring tour ‘cuz the pelican is using less ‘stuff’ & as a result there are no spectacular exploits by the principals ???…
…no more ‘explosions’ or any of those long drawn out pulls that can’t be matched…the table looks to be considerably leveled…
…cadel lost time which changes things BUT nobody is gaining time…sure, team sky is strong but with basso riding tempo for nibali, their best efforts go nowhere…
…anyway…dunno but definitely wondering…
I can’t believe Shrek would dope up like that. Probably won’t make another sequel now. Terrible example for the kids, just terrible.