A Saturday in November. We roll the new improved Lake Mary.

23 Responses to “Flagstaff Shavers”

1. bikepunk Says:
   November 9th, 2009 at 3:02 am

   And yet… with a shoulder that many (including BJ) would kill for… people are in the traffic lane. I’m all for bike lanes, and fair use… but court awareness plays a factor here as well. Got a shoulder that will seat 3 side-by-side? No need to pull out into the lane guys. We have all read and seen the consequences of asshole drivers and cyclists.

   Looks really fast though. New asphalt… always a double-edged ribbon.

2. burt.hoovis Says:
   November 9th, 2009 at 3:37 am

   At the risk of starting a thread that becomes something akin to a helmet troll: the way the people in that picture are riding looks perfectly fine to me. Yeah, one rider is slightly over the white line, so what? Its not egregious, and the group is obviously taking care to try to stay on the shoulder.

   Eagles lost to the Cowboys on Sunday Night…Big Jonny’s gonna be bummed…

   Thanks,
   Burt

3. Spice Says:
   November 9th, 2009 at 4:28 am

   I think, It’s better to ride just 2 feet to the left of the white line, then cars are less likely to squeeze thru between the yellow and white line. There’s less chance of getting buzzed, because it “forces” “polite” cars to cross the yellow line to pass you.

   With that said though, If the shoulder is as wide as in the photo, I’d be riding as far over as possible, without riding in the road debris.

4. nikthe? Says:
   November 9th, 2009 at 6:16 am

   The person over the line, has such a big ass, He/she need space to ride.

5. bikepunk Says:
   November 9th, 2009 at 6:31 am

   I really don’t want to seem like a ‘concern troll’ either. It’s just its a blind rising curve with a double-yellow. As someone who wants us to have the same rights as cars, (and in most cases we do) I’d also like to see people riding responsibly.

   If you’re gonna get hit, you’re gonna get hit. I just don’t see the point in taking chances is all.

   And don’t forget about the photo-taker… he’s gotta be almost in the middle of the lane.

6. singletrack maestro Says:
   November 9th, 2009 at 7:08 am

   That is a perfect example of how not to ride . No one is even taking the sweet spot . Thats a deer hunters dream . Get with it guys , move over or die ! I dont see one leader in that group . Bad form on that group . How many cell phones are ringing in that group ? Not to mention taking photos in the middle of the fuking hi-way . The bike lane on that road is bigger than most roads in Italy . The guy up front should br 4 feet over and every body should line out accordingly . form up ,look out for one another , become one with the road and save lives . No synergy there ……..

7. MitchKOM Says:
   November 9th, 2009 at 7:33 am

   Some people can tell an awful lot about that group based on a single picture. I do think with a shoulder like that it would be best if all the cyclists were to the right of the white line. It appears that there is room. But, how do you know that there isn’t a good bit of road debris pushing the front of the group over to the left a bit. How do you know that the person a couple of feet to the left of the white line didn’t just move to the left to blow a snot rocket or to shove a vest into her pocket and is in the process of moving back over. Maybe it’s possible that there is 2 miles of straight road behind them and the picture taker saw that it was clear behind to move out to the center of the lane to take a picture. Maybe there is a semi approaching rapidly from behind and is about to take the camera man down… Who knows, but I’m guessing that there wasn’t too much traffic at that given time and overall they are doing a good job at sharing the road. By the way, that looks like a damn nice road to ride on.

8. singletrack maestro Says:
   November 9th, 2009 at 7:52 am

   Legally a semi could operate on the right side of the double yellow , take most if not all of the riders out and prevail because no one is three feet from the side of the road rideing single file . Period . Your chances of getting killed increase for every inch you creep to the left into the motorists legal operating area . You must ride as if there is trafic at all times . How many times have you heard , “I didn’t see the car coming .

   Remember that the drunk driver is thinking , theres no traffic on the road so I’m crackin a PBR and gonna pin it home . Next thing you know there is Dura ace and carbon every where but ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD !

9. Hellbelly Says:
   November 9th, 2009 at 8:57 am

   singletrack maestro, the drink of choice amongst drunk drivers is Bud Light not PBR, overwhelmingly.

10. Bill Says:
    November 9th, 2009 at 9:00 am

    I’m just happy to see a cycling pic

11. singletrack maestro Says:
    November 9th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Hellbelly , I would like to appoligize I forgot that drunk drivers prefer

    Bud light .It was my mistake , I cant believe I did that .
    i am an idiot , I’m sorry , safe ridin to all , STM

12. senna Says:
    November 9th, 2009 at 9:56 am

    Boy, that’s just a beautiful picture. Featuring SUNLIGHT!!

13. Russell L. Carter Says:
    November 9th, 2009 at 10:10 am

    “You must ride as if there is trafic at all times . How many times have you heard , “I didn’t see the car coming .”

    We all have ears and some of us use them. And a few of us have mirrors. And we ride where we want in the lane, unless there’s traffic. Which we hear/see in plenty of time.

    On the Heart of AZ century on Saturday we had a minivan dickhead who refused to touch the yellow line and thus backed cars up following single file fast riders who were not more than 2′ from the road edge, and with zero oncoming traffic and long clear sight lines. This kind of attitude is absurd, when either mewed by a simpering cyclist or a pinhead motorist.

    BTW the cops didn’t have a problem giving us wide clearance across the yellow. Aside from the one dickhead the rest of the motorists were just fine and gave us plenty of room. Many thanks to them.

    Sharing the road means just that. No segregation.

    Over and out.

14. DJ Says:
    November 9th, 2009 at 11:39 am

    Great picture Gnome! A beautiful Saturday morning ride on a beautiful new road.

    As for all the “experts” commenting on our riding style, as I recall the pack moved left to avoid a pedestrian who was walking on the shoulder. Sheesh.

15. Hellbelly Says:
    November 9th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    stm, That loose statistic was based purely on the quantities and types of empties strewn about the roadsides that I ride, therefore Bud Light is not only the most popular beer in America, but also the most littered from my point of view. Not an original or coherent thought in someone’s head = drink Bud Light beer = drink & drive & litter. Might be a stretch in the profiling, but I’m rolling with it. Perhaps it was the Bud Light cans thrown at me while ridng a few years back in California that have left me with the hate. Happy Monday

16. Mikey Says:
    November 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am

    I run a left-side rear view mirror when I’m on the road. Here in Pugetropolis, the shoulders are piled with debris and usually wet, so the traffic lane is the preferred line.

    Bud Light is frat boy beer: comes up easy, doesn’t stain your shoes.

17. big jonny Says:
    November 9th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    You have no idea how happy that photo makes me and how much I miss that shit.

18. Gnome Says:
    November 9th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    A spark emerged from my soul that day. Nevermind what side of the white stripe this argument is about.

    It was only my third road ride of this year. After connecting again with Tru, a long lost compatriot from my days on Domenic’s, then hamming it up with the Germans, I realized that this shit – these bikes – well, that shit is the shit.

19. dave Says:
    November 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    No fucking shit.

20. mike Says:
    November 10th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    yeah big jonny….me too…

21. vacuum man Says:
    November 10th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Wagstaff’s Infamous Informal Saturday Morning Group Ride. Yeeeaaoooo! Now that’s a ride!

22. LandShark Says:
    November 11th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    It’s been ages and not sure if I even know any of the participants but I echo Big Johnny’s sentiment… God I miss that shit!!!!

23. patrick Says:
    November 14th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Bike Lane -vs- fog line?

    Got hit by an old lady; Turned in front of me in Ohio some years back. Needed surgical correction of fractured finger on the arm I use to lessen he impact. Highway patrol shows up at hospital that evening to “fill out an accident report”, told me that because I was “outside” the fog line I was “not on the road” therefore I had “no legal rights as a user of the road”.

    Now i ride on the road, where and how I feel safe, or I don’t ride the road.