Comments on: Telkom rode the dope train… http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/ Two Wheels. One Dark Lord. Fri, 25 May 2012 03:02:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: el jefe http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29144 el jefe Fri, 15 May 2009 01:04:31 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29144 more like a rogering... more like a rogering…

]]> By: HUMPTY http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29143 HUMPTY Thu, 14 May 2009 23:43:09 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29143 Buggery?? Is that like Tomfoolery? or maybe ballyhoo? Buggery??

Is that like Tomfoolery? or maybe ballyhoo?

]]> By: nkdmtnbkr http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29142 nkdmtnbkr Thu, 14 May 2009 22:58:03 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29142 Why are we shocked by this? I'm not saying that we've hit the limits of human performance improvements through training methods, but the advances have gotten more and more incremental as time goes on, and that goes for every sport. Look at the wattage these guys have been cranking for years and it's pretty obvious that doping has been the rule and not the exception for some time now. Bodybuilding(being the extreme example of chemical development) has had seperate "clean" competitions for a loooong time, and it's time to do that for cycling. The important cure isn't testing and fines, it's culture. When clean cyclists competing in clean competitions can garner the same money, fame, chicks and glory that their not so clean counterparts get, things will change. If fines, jail and buggery in the joint don't cure the common people of drugs, why would the penalties for doping cure someone who has so much more to gain? Anyway, we need to stop being surprised by this. As far as I'm concerned, the lot of them (the winners at any rate) are guilty until they prove otherwise. V Why are we shocked by this? I’m not saying that we’ve hit the limits of human performance improvements through training methods, but the advances have gotten more and more incremental as time goes on, and that goes for every sport. Look at the wattage these guys have been cranking for years and it’s pretty obvious that doping has been the rule and not the exception for some time now. Bodybuilding(being the extreme example of chemical development) has had seperate “clean” competitions for a loooong time, and it’s time to do that for cycling. The important cure isn’t testing and fines, it’s culture. When clean cyclists competing in clean competitions can garner the same money, fame, chicks and glory that their not so clean counterparts get, things will change. If fines, jail and buggery in the joint don’t cure the common people of drugs, why would the penalties for doping cure someone who has so much more to gain? Anyway, we need to stop being surprised by this. As far as I’m concerned, the lot of them (the winners at any rate) are guilty until they prove otherwise.
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]]> By: kg http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29141 kg Thu, 14 May 2009 22:51:24 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29141 Cavendish clean? Cavendish clean?

]]> By: Flanders http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29140 Flanders Thu, 14 May 2009 22:46:36 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29140 When is Dick Cheney going to fucking go away? When is Dick Cheney going to fucking go away?

]]> By: HUMPTY http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29139 HUMPTY Thu, 14 May 2009 22:32:53 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29139 Thanks, forgot about the wikepedia article. Too many benders in college... you can only erase the old "chalkboard" so many times you know... Thanks, forgot about the wikepedia article. Too many benders in college… you can only erase the old “chalkboard” so many times you know…

]]> By: John http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29138 John Thu, 14 May 2009 22:29:06 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29138 <i>Is there any way to get ahold of a list of all the cyclists that were busted or implicated in doping in the last 10 years?</i> Alex, I'd like to try Every Last One of Them for $200 please... Is there any way to get ahold of a list of all the cyclists that were busted or implicated in doping in the last 10 years?

Alex, I’d like to try Every Last One of Them for $200 please…

]]> By: Flanders http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29136 Flanders Thu, 14 May 2009 21:24:42 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29136 Hellbelly, You are correct, but they are looking for the list of actual bust's, I think... I'm 'positive' there are many all time greats, who just never got busted! Hellbelly,
You are correct, but they are looking for the list of actual bust’s, I think… I’m ‘positive’ there are many all time greats, who just never got busted!

]]> By: craig http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29135 craig Thu, 14 May 2009 21:21:36 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29135 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_cycling

]]> By: Hellbelly http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29134 Hellbelly Thu, 14 May 2009 21:14:33 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29134 The smaller list would be who hasn't doped. The smaller list would be who hasn’t doped.

]]> By: bikescag http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29133 bikescag Thu, 14 May 2009 20:50:20 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29133 Jonny- can we help Humpty out? Somewhere a while back, one of the contributors to the blog put up a link to Wikipedia and it was a Wiki entry called Doping in Cycling, I think- Humpty- it will answer your question and it actually goes back to 1900! Jonny- can we help Humpty out? Somewhere a while back, one of the contributors to the blog put up a link to Wikipedia and it was a Wiki entry called Doping in Cycling, I think- Humpty- it will answer your question and it actually goes back to 1900!

]]> By: Flanders http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/05/14/telkom-rode-the-dope-train/#comment-29132 Flanders Thu, 14 May 2009 20:49:15 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=10967#comment-29132 This just in? Breaking news? The part about the method of transfusion is the only part that shocked me. Reminds me of some stories I've seen about horse racing. Little or no concern for the well being of the athlete. Just use em up, and throw em away. The media and/or promoters try to make it like these cheating riders have stolen something from us, the audience. I'm not the one who's going to have a hormone imbalance for the rest of my life! I'm waiting for a similar story to come out about Team USPS... Only I hope they took a little more care in the process. This just in? Breaking news?
The part about the method of transfusion is the only part that shocked me. Reminds me of some stories I’ve seen about horse racing. Little or no concern for the well being of the athlete. Just use em up, and throw em away. The media and/or promoters try to make it like these cheating riders have stolen something from us, the audience. I’m not the one who’s going to have a hormone imbalance for the rest of my life!
I’m waiting for a similar story to come out about Team USPS… Only I hope they took a little more care in the process.

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