The weeks reading on Congress was very insightful. I was very intrigued by the the balance of power in regards to impeachment. If I was to create an example, it would be this:
If the Instructor (President) of a web-based class arrogantly assigns excessive amounts of writing (taxation), seemingly unconcerned and unaware of the undue stress her executive authority has imposed on the members of the class (The People) and in conjunction with this, she is completely absent from any type of activity within the web-course, nor utilizes any of the webCT tools as provided in order to foster The People’s ability to manage the established excessive taxation in a timely manner; nor provides any retort in class discussions, nor guidance on theory, nor any feedback on progress for The People by way of routine grade updates or critiques of student work, it would have to be assumed that she is not capable of fulfilling her responsibilities as President and that her abuse and neglect of the authority of the office has become tyrannical in nature.
The fundamental purpose of any government, is to establish order under which, The People may prosper. The People, by their very nature, love their class (country) and will endure civil processes of Impeachment, knowing full well, that the potential alternative is rebellion with a subsequent failure of the country. The People will form a singular legislative chamber. Considering the size of the population, all individual members of the class would simply be Representatives of themselves. They would work under one roof known as The House of Representatives. Spoken and unspoken rules would be established as necessary. Specialization would be established as deemed appropriate. The Representatives would associate, co-mingle, discuss, debate and clarify with each other, and within private committee meetings. Formal allegations would be established. Details of the insufficient & abusive nature of the President’s actions would be defined & documented. They would determine based on a majority vote, if the Instructor is to be impeached. Then they would vote.
If impeached, the college administration (The Senate) would then determine whether to convict the President by a 2/3 majority vote. Upon conviction, the Instructor would be removed from office.
An alternative to this, of course, is a proactive effort on the part of the President to be involved with her People. She would also propose revisions (an Amendment) of the syllabus (The Constitution) in order to better balance the tax burden on the people so that they may better be able to flourish (learn) under concise taxation having no unconsidered, gluttonous and irrelevant overload. This would thereby avoiding any legal proceedings.
In the process of amending The Constitution and in consideration of the writing intensive nature of the class, our fearless leader shall embark on a formatting campaign. Typos and complications in logic should be revised so that clarity of pertinent information such as dates, assignments and their descriptions can be more easily sought, and interpreted (eg; “Leave a message and i will call you back if it is necessarily.”) Also, clumping bold text together is far from any professional approach. All “lectures” should be consolidated, and redundant titles be eliminated as needed so that time is not wasted searching through a cluttered train wreck of superfluous content. As well, because the system of class processes is formalized within WebCT, the President should begin to utilize the appropriate tools available to disseminate & categorize information and assignments such as the appropriately labeled “assignments”, “assessments” and the “calendar”. Utilization of these utilities, not only allows The People to have a uniform process of conduct within this class (country) it is the same as the other online classes (countries) which they are enrolled in. Adherence to this system is a fundamental necessity to aid efficiency of both the government officials, and The People. This will also indicate to “The People” that their President is an intelligent individual, who is concerned not only with the quality of taxation (assignments) provided to her, but the quality of the efforts she provides them in her executive orders and that she has not bullshitted her way into a job she cannot perform with any semblance of competence.
If the Presidents salary is paid by “The People” it is the Presidents fundamental responsibility to respect that via a display of professionalism and prudent judgment in her execution of the office she holds.
peace,
dh
March 5th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Stop with the bitching. It’s not like you didn’t see this coming. BJ was touting Obama as the almighty change this country needed. I, for one, warned you that he was going to socialize America. Congrats! Now you get to pay for other people’s mortgages while you are still paying rent. How’s it taste?
Change. Change my ass.
This administration’s belief system is simple: the only reason this country is in a mess is because government wasn’t done right and wasn’t big enough. So, time to make it bigger and do it Obama style.
Even leftist Tom Brokaw said last night this this administration must be watched closely. It is “politics as usual.”
You brilliant clones drank the kool-aid and voted this socialist into office.
Now you’ve stuck us with him for the next four years.
Y’all got what you wanted.
Nice going.
Smarter Thanyou
March 5th, 2009 at 10:45 am
“Anarchy Burger! Hold the government.” – Vandals
March 5th, 2009 at 11:00 am
HAHAHAHAH AHAHA AH AH AH AAH AHA !!!! FUCK BIKES!!!!! BIKES FUCKIN SUCK, BRAH!!!! FUCKIN KG AND SMARTER THAN YOU RETURN, NOW THAT THE SUBJECT HAS CHANGED TO “THINGS THAT SUCK MORE THAN BIKES!!!!”
welcome back, bitches.
March 5th, 2009 at 11:04 am
If you were truly smarter, you would have understood that this post has nothing to do with Obama. It is in fact, one of my weekly reflection papers for a political science class. I submitted it to the teacher (President) of the class as with all the previous.
Onward:
I live below the poverty line. I tap student loans, welfare and food stamps. I don’t pay for anything that Fat Fat USA has billed. You do, & you pay my bills too. I have this shit hole country of glut tapped & wired. Consider me a revolutionary.
As far as the morts go: the necessary subsidization will be through taxation or +20% unemployment. Either way, the citizens hold the bag. Quip witty righteous bullshit and feel good about yourself. Your arrogance is trivial.
The change this country needs, is the removal of the current government. A civil war. The reinstatement of fundamentals. Anything less, will be futile. I have known this.
I did not vote for Obama. I did not vote. All of it is a facade. And you think McCain would have provide a better solution? If the choice mattered, I’d go for articulation over an overly contemptuous “Maverick” suffering from dimensia any fucking day.
I am smarter than you.
Anarchy Burger, coming right up.
March 5th, 2009 at 11:11 am
No piling on, STY and kg! So what…you warned people about this “socialist” and were systematically slapped around on this site for your ignorance. I merely warned about the character and political background of Mr. Obama (Chicago roots…and the Fed.govt has NOTHING on this place when it comes to corruption), and I was slapped around pretty good as well. BUT- just bitchin’ about it on a blog really doesn’t amount to much. I trust you’ve contacted your respective congresspersons to get them to vote against these policies which, as yet, are not exactly helping things. I have, not that it’ll do me any good…I don’t think Dick Durbin or (HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA) Roland Burris have too much interest in my point of view.
Give it time, is all I have to say. You know these problems weren’t created in a day, nor will they go away. We are working 32 hour weeks and had to lay off 2 people…but I have faith that it’ll come back.
March 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
uber alles, California.
kg wins.
yall just need a bike ride to cool yer fingas.
I think compulsive spending in the checkout line is what is wrong with Merca.
And the whole philosophy of keeping up with the Jonnies.
Ride yer bikes and get lost in nature for a few days – alone.
When you hear the zombie wolves cry in the night you’ll know when to return to Suburbia.
March 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
you say impulsive, i say compulsive, let’s call the whole thing off. In keeping with the theme of this site – pouring beer down your gullet also cools down the fingas. My fingas so cold…I gotta wear gloves.
March 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
“Ride yer bikes and get lost in nature for a few days – alone.”
March 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
smarter can you even define socialism? it has been used out of context by men whom I believe to be smart well read reasoning poeple. SEan H, Bill O and Rush. So smart that they know the only way to real in the ratings and appeal to the Rep Party is to paint a gross analogy.
Call it what you want. But it aint socialism
your broad definition is so vague that Republican policy fits the mold as well
please describe exactly how it is Obama is a socialist and then compare and contrast his policy with past presidents.
Here is a question for you smartone. Was Hitler a Socialist?
it is just really sad on many levels
March 5th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
This is why I didn’t continue my education. Fucktard instructors. The bullshit isn’t worth it.
March 5th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Yantra plus Mantra equals Tantra
March 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Butthead, heh, heh, Take your Aderol and concentrate. Hitler is so 20th Century. The question is whether Obama is a socialist.
Let’s compare and contast Obama to some other politicians.
Obama is the greatest deficit spender ever (GDSE). As bad as Clinton was, I’d take him back in a heartbeat if it meant being rid of Obama. Reagan was spending pocket change compared to Obama.
Or let’s just call GDSE “Robert Mugabe” because Obama will ruin this country just as surely as Mugabe has Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe recently shaved 12 zeros from its currency by fiat. Inflation is so high that the money will be back to that level of worthlessness in about 4 months. It’s kind of hard to wrap your head around hyper-inflation. Example: Assume a Zimbabwean ducat is worth one dollar today. In 4 months it’ll cost 1 trillion dollars for the equivalent spending power of that one dollar today. That one dollar hot dog is going to cost $1 trillion. That’s what happens when a dictator spends his way to social reform when taxes won’t cover the outflow. What is next? Is Obama going to order all white-owned farms be turned over to the descendants of slaves as reparations? (Yes, there is a pending reparations bill.) And this reference to Zimbabwe has nothing to do with Obama’s skin color. It’s the content of his character that is the problem, not his race.
You leftists just can’t admit you made a mistake, can you?
You are all against war, except when it is ratcheted up by your guy (re: Afghanistan surge). Lie: Obama will pull us out of Iraq. Truth: we’ll exit Iraq by August 2010 except for 1/3 of the soldiers who will remain to “advise” the Iraqis. Let me ask you, when you fill in hole in the ground half way, do you still have a hole in the ground?
Obama’s abandonment of Iraq means 100,000 U.S. American soldiers will leave but 50,000 will be left behind as targets for the Baathists and al Qeada to blow up. How compassionate towards the 50k. The truth is that overwhelming force wins wars and conflict. That is a pretty abstract truth for the liberal mind, so what about a recent real-world example? Israel overwhelmed Gaza and but then capitulated to a truce. Israel ceased hostilities, and Hamas responded by lobbing 80 missles into Israel. Not to mention bulldozer attacks on school girls headed to a hospital to sing to the sick. (Hamas praised the attack on the schoolgirls. What if an American had attacked a bus of Palestinian school girls. Would there be outrage?) Fighting a war with one hand causes unnecessary deaths. Obama should either stay in Iraq or get out, but not leave the 50k U.S. Americans to be IED fodder.
Next, Obama will close Guantanamo immediately, except when he won’t now that he’s gotten the inside scoop about the people there and no other country will take them, except those who harbor terrorists anyway.
Obama will stop tortuous interrogation, except when he won’t now that he knows what’s really going on.
Obama is Dick Cheney 2.0.
At what point are you going to become upset about Obama lying to you? If not upset, at least honest about what he’s done to betray your votes?
Deficit spending is “unpatriotic” per Reid and Pelosi when it is done by Republicans, but when Democrats do it an order of magnitude or two bigger, it is patriotic.
The cognitive dissonance is stunning. If all y’all had any intellectual honesty, you’d be pissed about being sold a bill of goods by Obama.
You’ve been screwed. Was it good for you?
All I am saying, is give peace a chance, not give Hamas $900 million to re-arm against Israel.
Re: define socialism, just use Bill Ayers version. That works just fine. Obama is following Ayer’s playbook, to no surprise.
Lame attempt at the straw man argument re: McCain would not have been any better. You’ve got a valid point there. Would he have been such a big spender? We’ll never know. But certainly JM is a RINO and is sucking up to Obama’s teat and agenda. But that is beside the point. Obama is doing what his history foretold he would do despite his centrist campaign rhetoric. Now that you’ve been screwed, he doesn’t love you this morning.
Next up, Cap and Trade BS. Lie: Anyone making less than $200k won’t pay a dime more in taxes. Truth: Cap and trade will make energy costs skyrocket, which will be passed on to consumers, even you bike wrenches hovering at the poverty level.
Unless you are a granola-eating unabomber living off the grid, here come higher pass-through taxes in your utility bill.
Sniff the glove, folks.
STY
March 5th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
hey dh,
what’s the poli sci class and who’s the prof? just curious.
March 5th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Smater Thanyou your an idiot. Step out from your anonimity, I’m your huckleberry.
March 5th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
“The rich are gettin’ richer and the poor are gettin’ drunk”
-Paul Westerburg
March 5th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Smarter said: “You leftists just can’t admit you made a mistake, can you?”
When did the rightwingers (yourself included) ever admit that they made the same mistake TWICE? It never happened, you were too busy claiming that we were all so much safer ever since our country has opened up the largest terrorist hotbed the world has ever seen and simultaneously giving terrorists justification to keep up what they are doing (see U.S. responsible for hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties in Iraq).
How about the leftists make a deal with you? If this nation suffers through 8 years of catastrophic failures regarding most major issues and repeated inaction regarding the rest (didnt bush run on the promise of a health care plan before his first term?), then they can admit that it was a mistake to elect Obama.
It’s a little early to be throwing him under the bus. I’ll admit that his time so far has brought some definite disappointments to his supporters, but that’s bound to happen when you inherit a failing empire. Someone has to deal with it. God knows Bush (and he does know Bush, as he presided over his policy decisions) couldn’t be found for the last 2 years he was in office unless someone was hurling footwear at his dome piece.
Youre a joke man. Criticizing Obama for ratcheting up the surge in Afghanistan. It wouldn’t be necessary if the great tactician W had stayed and fought the war we should have been fighting instead of worrying about a leader who tried to kill his daddy.
But yeah, fuck politicians in general, they are all from the same flock. Never gonna change in this 2 party system. But your one sided rants lack any ownership of the problems at hand, consequently making them extremely ignorant.
Anyways, Its 60 degrees and sunny outside and I’ve got a whole bag of “granola” to get rid of along with a new bike thats begging to be caressed by my inner thighs.
Wait, were we talking about politics?
March 5th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
What’s the difference between conservatives and liberals?
Liberals saw Bush was failing and hoped he would do better.
Conservatives hoped Obama would fail before he even got in to office.
“Those who don’t learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.” – George Santayana
Many great minds would agree with that quote and extrapolate it to suggest that doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results is the measure of stupidity.
Unbridled free market hasn’t worked the past eight (or more) years; perhaps it’s time for a slightly different approach?
March 5th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
GWH @ 13, no can say. Executive privy.
Smarter thanyou, contrasting the repugs with the Spendocrats is futile on both sides. Remember Bushco (literally) threw 700 bil at the prob just before exiting stage left.
Mistakes and deceit are ubiquitous, red & blue. The problem is obfuscated by divisive tacticians.
Calm before the storm. enjoy and prepare. Shit currently heads towards fan.
Now, back to the distractions: College is sooooo pretty.
March 5th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
So is The Anointed One getting impeached? Jeeze, what kept ya?
Though I’d sooner see torches and pitchforks.
March 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Opinions are like assholes and everyone has one, the difference is drunkcyclist.com has long been a site where similar assholes can bask in the glory that other people have assholes that look similar. When someone shows up to the party with a very different looking asshole and waves it around as if their shit doesn’t stink then the whole party start to smell funny.
In other words, Dave… Smarter than you… and other repugnant repugnicans, if you disagree than fine, but quit smelling up the whole party, because your asshole looks all fucked up to me!
March 5th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Wow gnome, kg, and smarterthanyou…
I’ve been putting my mind to why I couldn’t read any of your writings and actually make some sense out of them. I am certainly educated enough – and, in fact, credentialed enough – to understand complex points and abstract ideas.
I’ve concluded that you would all benefit from a course in basic philosophy and then follow up with a reading of the rhetoric and poetic of Aristotle. Season these with a quick review of very near term US history.
The statements you make bare scant resemblance to reality (acknowledging, gnome, that you are reflecting in a more hypothetical manner) and so the conclusions that you draw from your statements can only be considered specious.
It’s the definition of a straw man: the total manufacture of a point in order to disprove the point. Even if I conceded the point that you are intellectually consistent IN YOUR OWN HEADS (I don’t), the points you make still have no worldly application.
I wonder to myself if this is the “trickle down” effect of knowledge…what people pick up in the margins, if you aren’t *really* paying attention, but get your information from what you hear: the non-sequiturs, talk-radio points, and general murmurings of the restive public…and then try to join the conversation. . . like that game that kids used to play where they whispered something in the ear of the next kid over, and then 25 kids down the road you hear what the original statement has morphed into. And you guys, you are the guys discussing and defending the new, ridiculous, non-sensical statement.
And so you appear ridiculous, non-sensical, absurd.
March 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
I road the shit crap out of my bike today and crossed at least 15 logs. They were slimy and tangible, much 1/2 like our guvment. I am tired, I am drunk, I am broke, I am living the NEW Mercan Dream. I only smile because I will never forget how that feels. Wud you do 2day
March 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Philostofize and credential this…Danimal wears Garanimals!
March 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
So, every week for my online poly sci class, I have to write “at least 250 word” of critical analysis of the preceding weeks reading. This previous week, it happened to be about congress; that bicameral thing full of reps and senators. I felt I understood it well. So I c/p’d that shit into this hellhole for some infotainment value.
Then you bitches just hammer it all off point, missing the sheer joyful funny nothingness it was supposed to be, making me think there’s a larger point to this than just a time fuck, but I still don’t know what that is.
Then Husky midget talks about riding bikes, and like a cock full of face, I remember again, what it is that I do.
Then Danimal earns every penny of that education with the word “specious”, which I had to google. Nice work dude.
You Are Too Awesome! and as such, you’ve been awarded a free pair of Garanimals complements of DC as motivated by none other than HELL BELLY.
March 6th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Kellidge turns brain matter into pancake batter. Squeeze some grip and letter rip.
March 6th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
…how nice…our select little group of right wing reactionaries gets a chance to pipe up, band together once again & pretend like they’ve got something worthwhile to contribute…
…not so much, gang, especially not so much as when you see yourselves as being such informed politico strategists…
…“Obama is Dick Cheney 2.0.”…boy oh boy…somebody just shit on their own long winded political diatribe…i thought you were simply offering up yer own little jaded viewpoint ’til i read that line…
…if you wanna be a fucking comedian just say so & we’ll learn to laugh with you, not at you…
…fucking amazing ??? or fucking hilarious ???, i can’t decide which…
March 6th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Oh right, this is the section reserved for liberals. My bad; I’ll just go somewhere that people actually practice tolerance instead of just talking about it.
March 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
what’s up, pissers? i’m serious – we never hear from dave, kg, or tarder than you when there’s fun shit to talk about. only when we fly the wrong flag from the porch. i like when people only point out shit they don’t like. bitch all you want, i have no problems with it. freedom of speech and all that. but DO feel free to chime in sometime when you’re digging something other than something to bitch about. i mean, you do keep coming back for something.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Snake Hawk, all’s I know is you dumbasses voted for “hope” and “change” and “no earmarks” and “I’ll let the American people see what I’m signing”. Lies, lies, and all motherfucking lies.
If your boy were simply in over his head it would be bad enough. But it’s far worse and much deeper than that. All politicians are puppets; that’s a given. Bu when I think of the people pulling this one’s strigs my blood runs cold.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Now David, be a dissenter. not a trivial & useless belligerenter (sic).
Jefferson and the original BAMF Repug will appreciate it.
Until then, you’re as ignorant and arrogant as my old man.
What are the hot stocks today? Bushco (BS)? Wally World (WWJD)?
Regurgitation of Faux Snews is no replacement for intelligence. Quit fooling yo sef.
March 7th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
…you guys weren’t alarmists during the bushcheney regime when the shit was sliding fast & hard & NOW you wanna play that card ???…
…very telling…
March 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
dave – don’t talk to me ever.
March 7th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Typical liberal. (Fingers in ears-”I can’t hear you. la la la la laaaaaaa”.)
Gnome, all I know about the stock market is that A: My 401k is such that I may never retire and B: My daughter’s 529 is falling sharply in her freshman year. That, and every campaign promise from Barack Milhouse Obama is turning out to be a fucking lie. Bet you didn’t see that coming now, didja?
Bikesgonewild, who are these “you guys” of which you speak of? I’ve pretty much been screaming bloody murder since Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the rest of the usual suspects started this mess by tanking Fanny and Freddie. And it don’t make a fuck what “buscheney” did. Their watch is over. It’s all on your boy The Anointed one now. Every time that pansy-assed commie bitch opens his pukehole the market shits itself another 300 points. Best thing he could do would be to shut the fuck up, and he knows it.
Snake Hawk, go take a Midol.
March 7th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Yes. Dave has been screaming bloody murder. I can attest.
As much as I can appreciate the conservative logic he’s trying for, it is generally as misdirected as those who believe Obama is the anointed one. Hair split in the same system.
Faux News serves no purpose but to confuse, scare and mislead.
And, you may think you know what I’m talking about, but you don’t. The only way that can happen, is over beers.
For shits and giggles, give up 60 minutes to check your science. it’s not a “I’m right, you’re wrong” deal. Just a perspective supplement b/c you can be right all day long, and that shit just don’t matta.
Believe how you need to believe.
Considering the feeble options, I was, and am, happier that Obama is at the executive helm. And yes, I’ve always understood that he is overconfident. I’ll take that over what McPain would have brought, any day. And then, I could give a shit about the promises you’re crying about. Anyone arrogant enough to simply stay with his campaign word, is far worse, and that was Bushco. Indeed, Bushco stayed true to hissef, and got this country on the brink of bankruptcy, through a false war, and complete ignorance led by paulson. Yea, way to run a country. And when there is another party in the house in 4-8 years, you know what will happen, they will fold on their promises too.
Come to terms with the reality of politics.
And beyond that, what kind of ‘revolution’ do you expect from the annals of a government that is still intact. We’re in for a revo before there is any change we can believe in.
BGW – I don’t follow.
March 7th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
dave – Yawn.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Gnome, fuck National Pinko Radio. Give me something from an unbiased source if you want any shred of credibility. And by “McPain” and “Bushco” I suppose you are referring the the Republican presidential candidate in the last election and the previous holder of the office. They are not the issue. The current president and his systematic dismantling of our economy are.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
el jefe, more KoolAide to wash down that gub’mint cheese?
March 8th, 2009 at 8:07 am
dave, go ride your trek lime to the shopping mall and blow some of your hard earned republican dollars on a victorias secret set up for your dad. he’ll forget all about being such a horrible example to you.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:37 am
dave – Yawn. My cup has nothing but high quality bourbon. Look at what’s in your cup. I’m pretty sure it’s full of something sickeningly sweet, to cover up the taste of the poison. Keep throwing up the Faux News talking points. Your boy blew up the economy. Period. Your boy is the reason you, me, and everyone else needs to worry about our future employment. Period. Open your eyes. I know it’s scary.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Snake Hawk, not that it’s any of your business, but since you seem to care so much…
1-I ain’t got no Trek Lime. You couldn’t give me one. Mostly it’s my fixed Crosscheck.
2-I rarely go to the mall.
3-”Hard earned”? You’re fucking right. Ain’t no gub’mint cheese at my house. “Republican”? Hardly. While I am a registered Democrat, (Seriously, flip a coin.) I am at heart a conservative. No party truly represents me. I have no particular loyalty to any party.
4-I have precious little money to blow. The Obama recession, remember. It’s rough on those of us who are not getting gub’mint cheese. Not that I’d take it anyway.
5-I have never been in a Victoria’s Secret store. Nor do I plan on going.
6-My dad passed in 1978 and is greatly missed, even to this day. That aside, why would I want to buy him the garments you suggest?
7-My dad was a great example to me and my two brothers. If I do half as well as he did, I’ll be twice as good as most.
8-Sorry to hear the Midol didn’t work. (C’mon, you gotta admit that’s funny…)
March 8th, 2009 at 8:59 am
el jefe, you worry me. Bourbon at this hour? Coffee for me. Real coffe brewed in my kitchen, not that frou-frou stuff alot of you people seem to like.
Later (much later, after a good ride and a better meal) it will be Wild Turkey.
And what is this “Faux News” of which you speak of? New one on me.
“My boy”? What is that supposed to mean? It ain’t Chris Dodd, nor is it Barney frank, both key players in the Fanny and Freddie collapse that started this mess. And my “boy” (your words) surely isnt The Anointed One, The Messiah, the Prince of Hope and Change, Lord High Exalted Barack Hussien Milhouse Bananafana Obama who even now is presiding over this economic collapse with something far worse than indifference.
As to “you, me, and everyone else” worrying about future empoyment, I’m sure you do. And one’s associates being a true barometer of one’s character, I am that everyone you know must be worried as well. I am not quite so concerned, as I have skillset upon skillset. My great faith is in my own ability and not the gub’mint. It’s a conservative thing. As your Prophet disseminates gloom and doom, the better to steal more power, I am rolling up my sleeves.
Hell, I survived Jimmy Carter and did not have near the experience and wisdom that I do now. A scrawny Kenyan might tank the economybut my abilities will survive intact.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:36 am
some random thoughts and comments to throw in this shitpile…
Anyone else tired of people using the “kool aid” quotes?
Good on KG and Husky Midget for the old punk lines.
Smarter – did Obama write the reparations legislation? You are another spinner. So quick to point out the flaws in the Obama admin…already. Impressive. You can do this with any current admin, snipe at the negatives, bury the positives…easy.
Leftists?…I was/am still all for Afghanistan and long thought that should have been the primary focus, no Iraq stupidity, and guess what, I was right. I bet you were all for invading Iraq and spending the cash we dumped there to help make the world a safer place.
and my favorite quote of all “The truth is that overwhelming force wins wars and conflict.”
Forget about Vietnam? What do you define as overwhelming force? Political force can diffuse war before it begins, no? Carry a big stick, but you don’t always have to use it.
In that case, lets start building more nukes!
Wonder how much better this country would be if everyone (like those of us on this board) took the amt of time spent bitching on blogs and spent the same amt. of time trying to actually make it better, myself included. Oh, so hippy a thought…time for the acid, fuck the kool aid.
BGW (#31) – nice, simple post, like it!
Dave #33 – you 401k was on a sinking ship 16 months ago. Stock market has been like a drunk on a railing for the past 2 years, only needed a slight shift to send things sliding. I am with you on the party affiliation thing, point #4. Obama recession? Aren’t all the economists saying the recession started in 2007? That is lame to blame everything on the current admin. Seems like the republicans all wanted to blame Clinton for 9/11 even though it happened on Bush’s watch.
Is obama helping? we’ll see. How easy is it to make your bike stop on a dime after letting it get up to 45 mph on a downhill? you can’t, you either gradually slow down or crash. I am waiting to see which way we go.
I you all were so smart you would have been holding the gold for some time now. I am guessing by the amount of complaining those of you who are so smart must be surprised by this country’s issues too, which means you didn’t see it coming like a lot of us, and thus must not be that smart after all, maybe not even smarter than some of us.
Gnome – before this got way off track, actually liked that post, interesting.
Now, it is sunny, 70s, time for a nice long ride!
March 8th, 2009 at 9:39 am
“A scrawny Kenyan might tank the economybut my abilities will survive intact”
dave – are you fucking serious? Not doubting you abilities, it is the other part…
March 8th, 2009 at 9:47 am
pirata, dead serious. His natural born American citizenship is still up for debate, despite the millions Soros has poured into quashing any inquiry. You might want to read up alittle, son.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:47 am
That’s a bummer Dave.
I may have to ban you for your bigotry.
Your opinion, just like mine, needs to be developed from multiple sources, not just the ones that reassure you… keep your friends close, keep your enemy’s closer… that type of thing. Consistently getting your info from your singular point, only reassures you that you are “correct” which is a fallacy. Like investing in only one stock, diversification is simply a better method. Everything holds a bias.
You can and should be conservative. That’s not the point. You however, don’t really understand what is happening, just like the rest of country that focuses on a skewed point such as “how obama is deconstructing…”. It is sad how ignorant that rhetoric is.
I’ll send you a free beer coozie if you listen to it. It wont change anything. It’s not bias. You just assume.
Hannity the other night said that the market was not influenced by emotion. How accurate is that?
Why do you want to blame obama for this current economic cycle, when it is only a replication of 1929? Who was to blame then?
March 8th, 2009 at 10:32 am
i love riding bikes.
March 8th, 2009 at 11:48 am
dave has his peril sensitive sunglasses on… Really? You believe that citizenship bullshit? Really? Wow. Really? (Did you challenge McCain’s? He wasn’t born in the US, and it’s unclear weather overseas military bases count. I’m not promoting this, but it actually has more basis in fact.) You are one hard headed motherfucker. And you wonder why no-one takes you seriously…
March 8th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Gnome, what “bigotry”? Fuck you. I have not posted a single bigoted sentiment in this lunatic asylum; not ever. Go fuck yourself.
“Multiple sources”? WTF? I listen to National Pinko Radio. I watch MSNBC sometimes; usually when I have nothing on my stomach. And I take their propaganda with many grains of salt. Check out Olbermann. Check out Maddow. Sheer naked Obama propaganda. But I watch it when I’ve the stomach. Their bias is clear. Anyone who doesn’t see that is a fucking moron. Same with “Faux” news. By the way, it’s spelled “Fox”. You might want to hit your Spellcheck. Speaking of which, I’m aware of their bias too. I tend to go with a variety of souces, then throw ‘em at the wall and see what sticks. Jesus, dude! You fuckers won’t be happy until I subscribe to the Dily Worker an keep a copy of Das Kapital on the nightstand.
Oh yeah, and save your money. I don’t need no damned coozie. That’s more a trailer trash/NASKKKAR/redneck thing. I’ll take mine n a proper pint glass.
Hannity said what now? Probably taken out of context which is typical with your lot. I’ll take your word (such as it is). Don’t want to upset your delicate constitution, but I’m not glued to the Fox network.
As to blaming Obama, guess who got the most donations from Fanny/Freddie of any United States senator? That aside, he’s the man in charge. Sure he inherited (and as a member of the Senate arguably helped star) thye current mess. Hell, he threw the grandmother that raised him under the bus to get to where he is. But I digress. My quarrel with the Lord High Anointed One is in the way that he seems to be deliberately tanking the market. That’s MY money he’s fucking with.
March 8th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
el jefe, go eat another dick.
March 8th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
mmmm, dick. Fuck you, twat. Still not taking you seriously.
March 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
It’s silly that you think the market up until 2007 was normal and appropriate market. Check your science. What is happening is an appropriate and required correction of the last 25 years of America thinking it deserves some sort of dream, and having chased it with credit.
Know that the American population is in debt at 100% of gdp. That means that for 13.84 trillion in gross domestic product, the people of this country are on the hook for the same amount. All because we think we deserve that dream. This has cracked the nation. We’re in the calm before the storm.
If you understood the dynamics of our current economy, you’d know that your argument to validate hatred of Obama is moot. He’s a distraction to the point that nobody is discussing. All because people need to believe in something. We are lemmings by nature. Obfuscation, fear, lies, hook, sell.
Again, check the NPR link posted @ #34.
A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own, and bigotry is the corresponding state of mind. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
Too bad you are rebelliously unwilling to accept a token of appreciation. I believe you add appropriate perspective to the site, no matter how ill-logical it may seem to the majority. I come from hard-line conservative roots. I know what you are trying to speak of. Yes, small government is an ideal. We will not see it return anytime soon. Reagan was the end of it, and it spawned what we’re experiencing now. In that, they have forced the establishment of a full blown democratic dynamic… which means socialism is on its way. Fear not though, as we will have American style socialism which will mean we as a nation will have it good. Sure a bit o compromise; 24′ instead of 26″ spinners, but it’ll be ok. We still got it good here no matter if your 401k is tanking. What did you really expect?
Thank you for the notice of the typo, maybe this will clarify:
Faux: fake: not genuine or real; being an imitation of the genuine article; “it isn’t fake anything; it’s real synthetic fur”; “faux pearls”; “false …wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
It is unfortunate that your intelligence is wasted on defending propaganda from the fear machine that is a conglomerate of all those varied sources you purportedly review(Faux, MSNBC… etc.). You’re the same as my father. A completely pedestrian waste of synapses.
Escalades for everyone. Trust funds all around.
March 8th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Hannity’s remarks were not taken out of context. He is a propagandist, and will say what the ratings tell him to say. He is a failed preacher and in that, an excellent soothsayer to the common. He advocates fear and hate.
pass the hat.
March 8th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Gnome, how did the Klingon commander say it? “In a different reality I could have called you “friend”.
March 8th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Shit you all are taking this shit way to fucking serious. I rode in snow today and it fucking sucked. I am blaming both Bush and Obama for not having funding the weather control machines that make everyday seem like I am living in Maryland where everything is fucking perfect.
March 8th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Bufalo, what the fuck are you smoking? Maryland is a blue state. Jesus, brother, buy a fucking vowel.
March 8th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Whatever was left in the bowl dude! No thanks on the vowels either as I have been having pretty regular movements lately. Really I didn’t know you had balls in Maryland, must be painful if they are blue all the time.
March 8th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
CLUTCH is from maryland and they don’t give a fuck about politics, much like me. “Everybody move to Canada, smoke lots of pot, everybody move to Cananda right now, here’s how we do it, lets bum rush the border guard before he and his dog ever knew it!” Streets on Fi-ya!
Ahhhhhh, finally something I can relate to. Bikes.Beers.Booze.BDJ
March 8th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Wow, this post was an AESOME tard magnet.
I see I didn’t miss much when I was svooshing through the pow-pow down yonder in Lil Cottonweed Canyon. Didja miss me? Group hug?
March 8th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Tard magnet? Tell me aboot it, eh. Fucking libs ain’t got a clue.
March 8th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Laughing at you, not with you, dave.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Holy crap. It’s like I walked in to a fucktard convention at the Holiday Inn.
Cover balls and exit stage left. Pronto.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Dave, Please retract the coozie comment. While I am a redneck of sorts, I don’t like NASCAR and I don’t live in a trailer. Coozies just make good sense when drinking at a leisurely pace in warm weather. Thank you.
March 8th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
I am not liberal. I am not conservative. Sometimes I use a coozie.
I don’t like nascar. I like football, beer, bikes, good looking naked women, liquor, naked women and beer. My 401(k) looks shitty too.
Believe it or not we are all in this together, at least to some degree. Finger pointing doesn’t get ya jack shit, in my experience. Maybe a moment of self satisfaction of “being right”, at least in your own opinion. Like jerking off, except people have no problem doing it in public. And generally no respect in doing it.
I rode about 100 miles in nice, warm weather this weekend. 70 degree stuff. Now take THAT mofos. Wish it was the same for everyone else.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
“Tard magnet?”
Dave-
You’re a waste of space. Can you practice typing somewhere else, please? Thanks, have a super nice ride and keep the rubber side down.
March 8th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Dave @ 53, I have no fucking idea. I think that shit is retarded.
March 9th, 2009 at 5:17 am
Drinking cans of beer es not queer. After I camp, I crush em down with a mushroom stamp. Can = Man
March 9th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Dave-I hear there is a circle jerk going on over at Ironspoke.com you could join.
March 10th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Funny:
All through Bush’s presidency (1462-ish days), conservatives were pointing fingers backwards and saying “Clinton gave these problems to us. He gave us the terrorists and the job loss that we’re finally just experiencing now this period of time later.” Conservatives never owned up to the problems the Bush administration caused, always claiming it was someone else’s fault.
Not even 55 days in to Obama’s presidency and conservatives are saying “Look at all the problems he’s created.” If the previous administration couldn’t do anything (but be victims of the evil past liberals and the evil present liberals) for four years, how could the current administration get anything done (let alone create something completely all his own) in 1/26th of the time?
March 10th, 2009 at 8:52 am
indeed. Politics as usual.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:29 am
I was busy last week and pretty much missed this whole convo. And maybe that’s ok. But I will say this much: I’m socially liberal and fiscally conservative. That’s how the wife and I live our lives. Do what we want. Don’t hurt anyone else in the process. Keep within our means. Save for tomorrow.
Obama is not a Socialist. This is not about state ownership (the possible, and arguably necessary, nationalization of a few large banks aside). It’s a name meant to conjure up some specter of red terror years gone past. It’s a stale critique. It misses the mark. I expect more.
As for those failing banks, my god man, do you realize what allowing them to fail might mean? We cannot risk it. We must prop them up. That is one of the functions of government. Say what you will, the FDIC has a purpose. And so does keeping __fill in big bank here__ (and the rest of ‘em) out of the ditch.
Sure, it bothers me too. Moral hazard and all that. We are all going to pay other’s mortgages – while we pay our own. There is no escape. We, the tax payers, either prop it up on the front end or help dig it out of the mire on the back end. We’re going to have to get down there and do something sooner or later. I can’t see how it can be avoided.
Does it suck? Yes. Is there a better way? Let them all fall down? What is the cost of that occurrence?
Really. Tell me. Is there?
March 10th, 2009 at 11:25 am
“But I will say this much: I’m socially liberal and fiscally conservative. That’s how the wife and I live our lives. Do what we want. Don’t hurt anyone else in the process. Keep within our means. Save for tomorrow.”
Jonny-
I very much understand your feeling here, but this statement contradicts itself. You cannot be fiscally conservative and socially liberal at the same time. You say you’re ’saving for tomorrow’- what if a brother falls on hard times? Do you walk away (fiscal conservatism) or lend the man a buck (social liberalism)?
Can’t be both.
I suggest you’re actually just plain liberal. Trying to save for the future, yes, but paying your neighbor’s mortgage all the same. Me? I’ve poured something like a quarter million dollars (on paper) down that hole since October. Hard to be happy about that.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Whatever happened to work hard, get paid hard. That phenomenon seems to be dwindling in the current climate. If noone wants to buy a shitty assed car, let the shitty assed car maker go broke. Ride bikes instead. brew and consume beer. Leave us the fuck alone. I’ll live, will you?
March 10th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
But my baby! where will my baby sleep! Gubmint, save me!
Mr taxpayer will foot the bill through taxes, or unemployment. Either way, he’s on the hook for it. no way otherwise. which is better, is arbitrary opinion.
mikey, you are being disappointing.
ride bikes. drink cans. be a maan.
March 10th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Hellbelly, if you drink your beer “at a liesurely pace”, you probably shouldn’t be posting on a forum called “Drunk Cyclist”.
I guess you don’t ride a bike either?
March 10th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Yo Dave, I must admit that I enjoy the beers, so no need to hurry through them, maybe that’s why I use the coozies. With a Milwaukee muscle of my size, I sometimes feel the need for a shot or two along the way, otherwise I just drink myself sober. I guess that makes me a wanabee Drunkcylist.
March 11th, 2009 at 2:56 am
…gnomer…sorry about the delay…
…re: “BGW – I don’t follow.”, in response to my “you guys weren’t alarmists during the bushcheney regime when the shit was sliding fast & hard & NOW you wanna play that card ???…
…very telling”…
…self explanatory when directed at the dave’s, sommerfliesby’s, kg’s, (wish i was)smarter thanyou’s & other folks of that mindset…too much right wing ‘blame game’ pointed at the wrong administration & way too much republican alarmist ‘reality stretching’…
…& at this point in the game, ol’ dave ain’t really worth responding too…
March 11th, 2009 at 9:17 am
got it, & yea, he rejected a free coozie so fuck him.
March 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Gnome, you wouldn’t like it. I just lie there and sweat. Ask your mom if you don’t believe me.
March 11th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Nice one, fuck. I’m sure your pops would be really proud.
“If I do half as well as he did, I’ll be twice as good as most.”
I’m not sure if you’re achieving that previously stated goal, but the way the mathematics of brotherhood work out these days, you’re not twice as good as the peanuts in a piece of shit.
Seems you could’ve used a little bit of his example just now.
March 11th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Yeah, I really hate how you people always manage to drag me down to your level.
March 11th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
hey dave….
Pride (Latin, superbia)
Main article: Pride
In almost every list pride (or hubris or “vanity”) is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and indeed the ultimate source from which the others arise. It is identified as a desire to be more important or attractive than others, failing to acknowledge the good work of others, and excessive love of self (especially holding self out of proper position toward God). Dante’s definition was “love of self perverted to hatred and contempt for one’s neighbor.” In Jacob Bidermann’s medieval miracle play, Cenodoxus, pride is the deadliest of all the sins and leads directly to the damnation of the titulary famed Parisian doctor. In perhaps the best-known example, the story of Lucifer, pride (his desire to compete with God) was what caused his fall from Heaven, and his resultant transformation into Satan. Vanity and narcissism are prime examples of this sin. In Dante’s Divine Comedy, the penitents were forced to walk with stone slabs bearing down on their backs in order to induce feelings of humility.
check yo self fool
March 11th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
unless you are catholic. then you can just go to confession tomorrow and its cool.
March 11th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
lp #81-
Well said, sir. Bravo!
March 12th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
lp, you go to your church*. I’ll go to mine. Meanwhile, take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.
*If you even go to church. I’m guessing you’re atheist, same as most Godless left wingers.
March 12th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
If lp is who I think it is, I’d pay top dollar to watch her take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.
Top. Dollar.
And, yeah, I tried to sum up my world view in four words “socially liberal / fiscally conservative” and it didn’t quite work. Who know you couldn’t sum up the totality of one’s existence in fewer words than there are fingers on your hand?
I think you know what I meant, though. I’ve no problem with capitalism, business, low taxes, booming economies, private land ownership, and the rest. I also think gays should be able to marry, women should be paid the same as men, and abortion is between a woman and her doctor. I’ve leaned toward the big D for the last twenty odd years because they seem to be more appealing. I’m very much turned off by the whole religious right phenomena. I’ll say it plain – keep your god the fuck away from me, thank you very much.
Ok, I’m done.
March 12th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
You know you are right. Shouldnt have brought the G man into this. But…
…ahhh. Its not even worth my time.