Comments on: Posse Time http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/ Two Wheels. One Dark Lord. Fri, 25 May 2012 04:39:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: HUMPTY http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26720 HUMPTY Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:25:54 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26720 Ah, just like old times....eh boys http://www.cyclingnews.com/newsphotos.php?id=/photos/2009/news/mar09/mar02news/3friendsMex Ah, just like old times….eh boys

http://www.cyclingnews.com/newsphotos.php?id=/photos/2009/news/mar09/mar02news/3friendsMex

]]> By: John http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26698 John Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:13:57 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26698 <i>And I am really sure the cyclists and their trainers have no idea what the labs are capable of finding and not finding. I'm guessing that there are entities on the competitive side of the sport that have the knowledge, contacts, and resources to stay abreast of the latest developments in testing.</i> And I am really sure the cyclists and their trainers have no idea what the labs are capable of finding and not finding.

I’m guessing that there are entities on the competitive side of the sport that have the knowledge, contacts, and resources to stay abreast of the latest developments in testing.

]]> By: pirata http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26684 pirata Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:28:07 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26684 Good article, thanks for the link. "Strauss also said that the criteria for a positive result can and do vary from one lab to another" just to help throw a little more confusion into it all. I am sure the labs are all spot on consistent for the cycling test though. And I am really sure the cyclists and their trainers have no idea what the labs are capable of finding and not finding. Good article, thanks for the link.

“Strauss also said that the criteria for a positive result can and do vary from one lab to another”

just to help throw a little more confusion into it all. I am sure the labs are all spot on consistent for the cycling test though.

And I am really sure the cyclists and their trainers have no idea what the labs are capable of finding and not finding.

]]> By: Gnome http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26675 Gnome Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:06:13 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26675 Check the articles over at <a href="http://www.belgiumkneewarmers.com/search/label/Doping" rel="nofollow">BKW for enlightenment</a> on doping from the orgs to the new paradigm and how it is developing. Check the articles over at BKW for enlightenment on doping from the orgs to the new paradigm and how it is developing.

]]> By: pirata http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26674 pirata Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:36:55 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26674 And it only gets deeper when you consider those who have a major interest in funding for their own research. Doping is a big problem, give us a couple million in grants so we can develope tests, analyze physiological indicators, side effects etc. The researchers are some brilliant people, but my opinion of the actual testing labs is low. There are people in those labs punching the clock for a paycheck, and the validity/accuracy/consistency of their work is definitely suspect at times, which is half of what gave Floyd any case at all (although dodging some of the fundamental issue). If I was a pro I would be nervous any time I was tested. Statistics can always strike against you. One wrong number in a lab notebook could set things spinning, and I think the average lab rat is more likely to cover this up to save face than own up to a mistake. Seen this happen first hand. And it only gets deeper when you consider those who have a major interest in funding for their own research. Doping is a big problem, give us a couple million in grants so we can develope tests, analyze physiological indicators, side effects etc.
The researchers are some brilliant people, but my opinion of the actual testing labs is low. There are people in those labs punching the clock for a paycheck, and the validity/accuracy/consistency of their work is definitely suspect at times, which is half of what gave Floyd any case at all (although dodging some of the fundamental issue).
If I was a pro I would be nervous any time I was tested. Statistics can always strike against you. One wrong number in a lab notebook could set things spinning, and I think the average lab rat is more likely to cover this up to save face than own up to a mistake. Seen this happen first hand.

]]> By: bikesgonewild http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26673 bikesgonewild Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:14:54 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26673 ...therein lies a (somewhat) interesting question... ...how many people are gainfully employed as "piss-testers" in the world of cycling alone ???...w/ multiple races & split 'mega-teams' all over the globe plus off-season testing when racers, both guys (& chicks) are on vacation... ...i imagine testers prob'ly travel in pairs so there can be no questioned improprieties... ...anybody got any clues ???...(an) inquiring mind(s) want to know... …therein lies a (somewhat) interesting question…

…how many people are gainfully employed as “piss-testers” in the world of cycling alone ???…w/ multiple races & split ‘mega-teams’ all over the globe plus off-season testing when racers, both guys (& chicks) are on vacation…
…i imagine testers prob’ly travel in pairs so there can be no questioned improprieties…

…anybody got any clues ???…(an) inquiring mind(s) want to know…

]]> By: dave http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26672 dave Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:42:41 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26672 Fuck it. Cat's out of the bag. Not that that's news or anything. Let 'em run what they brung, I say. Be fun watching 'em blow up and shit, anyway. Bonus-All them WADA tools would have to go back to flipping burgers or whatever. Fuck it. Cat’s out of the bag. Not that that’s news or anything. Let ‘em run what they brung, I say. Be fun watching ‘em blow up and shit, anyway. Bonus-All them WADA tools would have to go back to flipping burgers or whatever.

]]> By: Chris Duncan Clothing http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26669 Chris Duncan Clothing Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:15:59 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26669 Drunk Cyclist I am fucking here man! Drunk Cyclist I am fucking here man!

]]> By: Gnome http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26667 Gnome Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:30:43 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26667 Well, maybe. Apparently there is no consequence at this point. I didn't take it as a guilted confession. I saw it as an egotistical trumpeting and in that, revealing of the system as a whole. Well, maybe. Apparently there is no consequence at this point.

I didn’t take it as a guilted confession. I saw it as an egotistical trumpeting and in that, revealing of the system as a whole.

]]> By: John http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26664 John Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:09:54 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26664 <i>the guy is spilling more about the system of cycling than anyone, and he’s doing it completely from the hip, with no consideration for self.</i> I'm uhhh.....gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one. I'm grateful that the layers of deception surrounding the sport continue to be peeled back, but this seemed far more like a carefully calculated Riisian move than it did a spontaneous soul-cleansing confession. Still, as copping to cheating goes it wasn't bad; I'll give it an A-Rod minus. the guy is spilling more about the system of cycling than anyone, and he’s doing it completely from the hip, with no consideration for self.

I’m uhhh…..gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one. I’m grateful that the layers of deception surrounding the sport continue to be peeled back, but this seemed far more like a carefully calculated Riisian move than it did a spontaneous soul-cleansing confession. Still, as copping to cheating goes it wasn’t bad; I’ll give it an A-Rod minus.

]]> By: Gnome http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26663 Gnome Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:47:50 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26663 Yep, VDB is a roadie to the T with that tood. Wound tight indeed. Yep, VDB is a roadie to the T with that tood. Wound tight indeed.

]]> By: pirata http://drunkcyclist.com/2009/02/27/posse-time/#comment-26658 pirata Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:24:15 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/?p=9253#comment-26658 I think it comes down to one of two options in this case, and VDB chose to eventually own up and admit he was a lying doper. Yeah, he certainly slung the BS with the best as far as excuses, but I suppose eventually some bottom out and figure, wtf, nowhere to go but honest now. So now he owns up, as opposed to some others who still blame global warming, vanishing twins, dogs, satan, french newspapers etc. Ultimately VDB probably has bigger issues. Seems like a lot of these guys are like thoroughbreds--fast as hell and about half crazy. I think it comes down to one of two options in this case, and VDB chose to eventually own up and admit he was a lying doper. Yeah, he certainly slung the BS with the best as far as excuses, but I suppose eventually some bottom out and figure, wtf, nowhere to go but honest now. So now he owns up, as opposed to some others who still blame global warming, vanishing twins, dogs, satan, french newspapers etc.
Ultimately VDB probably has bigger issues. Seems like a lot of these guys are like thoroughbreds–fast as hell and about half crazy.

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