Comments on: Transparency

By: cd71

cd71 — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:46:53 +0000

@John the Lawyer:
“Tell me what cause, other than tearing down other American Tour winners, Lemond has dedicated himself to, and I’ll be quiet. Until then…”

You might want to check http://www.1in6.org and get quiet.
One cause that can be seen as pretty embarrassing and that somehow is not embraced by many celebrities… probably because it takes more than guts to do it.

Just as it takes an incredible amount of courage to try to uncover the truth about someone that some people blindly admire, so much that doing it will invariably make you be called an old bitter jealous dick. I think LeMond really doesn’t care about that.

Cycling has gone through an incredible downward spiral with the Armstrong years. There was some hope things could get better without him, but he decides to come back, and he says he’ll now be “transparent”. Armstrong then needs to be transparent about his past too, but he clearly refuses to do it. In the press conference, he kept on repeating people had to “move on”… Transparency is just a nice PR trick.

Congrats on LeMond to be able to show that Armstrong is willing to be transparent only on what he decides.

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:00:28 +0000

i don’t think Greg ever learned that in certain situations 1) you can’t win and 2) trying just makes you look bad

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Greg Lemond vs Lance Armstrong… Again - rickysilk — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:45:30 +0000

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By: Humpty

Humpty — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:38:20 +0000

all will be settled…there is a suit right now. Someone will flip on Lance eventually. Do the fucking math guys. I mean Lance has done more for cancer than anyone, can’t take that away. But think of all his ex-teammates that have tested positive or admitted to EPO use. Lemond is going through his mid life right now and throwing up his past on everyone, but that does not mean that he is wrong.

and FYI his VO2 crushed Armstrongs…and he still could not hang in the 90′s. I would be fucking bitter too.

By: bikesgonewild

bikesgonewild — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:10:42 +0000

…lemond gets invited to participate in various charity rides & thus his name is “associated” w/ certain causes but you are quite right, john the lawyer…he’s not making a real stand for anything but self promotion, despite his assertions that it’s for the sport…

…do i think he loves the sport ???…100% hell yes, not a doubt in my mind…do i think he’s going about his propagation in a self centered, idiotic manner ???…100% hell yes…

…lancestrong & his large ego might not be subtle, but he steps up to the plate & he does it knowing full well that he’s under a microscope (quite literally, once again)& that no matter how well he represents a cause he seriously believes in, that he will encounter loud mouthed, publicity seeking naysayers…

…lemond is fast devolving from a “great tour winner” into an embarrassing curmudgeon…if you think it looks bad now, imagine him 10 years down the line when he’ll be wheelchaired, drooling, into events in a straight-jacket…

…“yep, he was once one of the tour greats, believe it or not…absolutely magnificent in some of his battles on the bike but he could never reconcile himself to not being considered #1 & look at him now…such a shame really…
…what’s that ???…oh, the other guy in a straight-jacket w/ greg ???…that’s dick pound”…

By: Evil_Bumpkin

Evil_Bumpkin — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:27:59 +0000

Ya..and I can’t wait to see Schleck in next year’s tour as well!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/sep08/sep27news

BTW…John The Lawyer…I agree 100%.

By: John The Lawyer

John The Lawyer — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:07:18 +0000

It’s already been said, but bears repeating:

Lemond is a dick.

One of Armstrong’s reasons for returning to the sport is to reemphasize the need to battle cancer. If he suceeds in getting the world to focus on that, I don’t care if he rides around France in July with an EPO pump strapped to his ass.

Tell me what cause, other than tearing down other American Tour winners, Lemond has dedicated himself to, and I’ll be quiet. Until then…

By: bikesgonewild

bikesgonewild — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:34:43 +0000

…greg lemond = lead poisoning = addled brain = bitter man = enough said…

By: Dave King

Dave King — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:25:49 +0000

Well, for what it’s worth, Floyd Landis did provide his power output data in the 05 and 06 tours. Clearly, not sure what that proves, or disproves, in any case.

http://www.bicycling.com/tourdefrance/article/0,6802,sl-7-123-12161-1-0-0-0-1542,00.html

By: big jonny

big jonny — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:55:29 +0000

As for data release to ones competitors: Why would it matter if they know you’re strong? They already know that. They still have to beat you up the hill with whatever power they have in their own legs.

By: pirata

pirata — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:14:04 +0000

I agree with the idea that there is data you may not want to release to your competitors.

While the idea of maintaing data locked away is nice, I think by now we can see that the laboratories and scientists involved in the sport are prone to less than desirable adherence to Good Laboratory Practices.

As for Lemond, either he is a bitter old tour winner who can’t stand to see others put him in the shadows, or, maybe he is so pissy because he is right and knows it. Hard to say.

Any studies out there showing expected changes in VO2 max/power changes from natural training compared with “enhanced” training? Be curious to see the differences.

By: dd

dd — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:31:10 +0000

I feel like after a long night eating and drinking and what not my v02 and power go way down. But I can only tell because a slight hill has my head spinning and heart pounding.