Comments on: early results: DC puts stamp on L-ville 100 http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/ Two Wheels. One Dark Lord. Thu, 24 May 2012 17:26:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: big jonny http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-19100 big jonny Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:08:59 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-19100 Allow me to affirm that - the gnome does pretty much hate everybody. Allow me to affirm that – the gnome does pretty much hate everybody.

]]> By: Gnome http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-19089 Gnome Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:43:22 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-19089 Oh, I'm about as bent out of shape on doping, as if I were to see snow in the forecast. Sure, it sucks but really, other than busting balls, it doesn't matter... just like cycling. I find it hilarious, that we as a collective of two wheels, can in one hand, destroy the likes of Landis and Hamilton and (insert names here...) while in the next breath, we let any of the others off the hook under the guise that they've done "more" for the sport: That reeks of narcissism just like anything else. And about LA's book. Hey, great story. Personal suffering and overcoming the odds. That's what all the cancer survivors need, another fallacy that they too "can win". Get over your little ideal world. Last, I also find it retarded that I can't say "Durka" without somebody thinking I'm an Arab hater. Fact of that matter, is I pretty much hate everyone. Oh, I’m about as bent out of shape on doping, as if I were to see snow in the forecast. Sure, it sucks but really, other than busting balls, it doesn’t matter… just like cycling.

I find it hilarious, that we as a collective of two wheels, can in one hand, destroy the likes of Landis and Hamilton and (insert names here…) while in the next breath, we let any of the others off the hook under the guise that they’ve done “more” for the sport:

That reeks of narcissism just like anything else.

And about LA’s book. Hey, great story. Personal suffering and overcoming the odds. That’s what all the cancer survivors need, another fallacy that they too “can win”. Get over your little ideal world.

Last, I also find it retarded that I can’t say “Durka” without somebody thinking I’m an Arab hater. Fact of that matter, is I pretty much hate everyone.

]]> By: hack http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-19082 hack Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:22:39 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-19082 guys like myself who never "chased the dream" can "let it ride"...no skin of our arse, LA and the TDF definitely got me into the sport, good for me but i can understand how guys like Gnome who busted arse but never really even had a chance because they weren't willing to compromise their integrity and intentionally damage their body (isn't cycling dangerous enough w/o jacking yourself up on drugs and other people's blood)could harbor some bitterness that's the problem with cheating, it is effectively the worst form of stealing because it involves taking something that can never be given back so us hacks will just keep on "letting it ride", but the truly unfortunate thing is it doesn't much matter if LA fesses up one day or not, the likes of Gnome will never be able to "let it ride", what was STOLEN from them can't be replaced guys like myself who never “chased the dream” can “let it ride”…no skin of our arse, LA and the TDF definitely got me into the sport, good for me

but i can understand how guys like Gnome who busted arse but never really even had a chance because they weren’t willing to compromise their integrity and intentionally damage their body (isn’t cycling dangerous enough w/o jacking yourself up on drugs and other people’s blood)could harbor some bitterness

that’s the problem with cheating, it is effectively the worst form of stealing because it involves taking something that can never be given back

so us hacks will just keep on “letting it ride”, but the truly unfortunate thing is it doesn’t much matter if LA fesses up one day or not, the likes of Gnome will never be able to “let it ride”, what was STOLEN from them can’t be replaced

]]> By: Mikey http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-19018 Mikey Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:35:11 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-19018 Big Jonny- A reasoned response, sir, but I think that guys like Mr. Nash Boots have a good point. Lance Armstrong paid his entry fee and rode his guts out last weekend for what? A belt buckle. I really doubt he's all doped up for an amateur MTB race, and hey look, he still dishes out a metric fuck ton of pain on the other riders. Dave Wiens probably would not have shattered his record if he didn't have LA trading pulls for the first six hours. So to have a grumpy group of slightly intoxicated cyclists talking smack on LA simply because he won some famous races is, well, negative. Me, I reckon the guy's retired, let it ride. Keep the rubber side down. Mikey Big Jonny-

A reasoned response, sir, but I think that guys like Mr. Nash Boots have a good point.

Lance Armstrong paid his entry fee and rode his guts out last weekend for what? A belt buckle. I really doubt he’s all doped up for an amateur MTB race, and hey look, he still dishes out a metric fuck ton of pain on the other riders. Dave Wiens probably would not have shattered his record if he didn’t have LA trading pulls for the first six hours.

So to have a grumpy group of slightly intoxicated cyclists talking smack on LA simply because he won some famous races is, well, negative. Me, I reckon the guy’s retired, let it ride.

Keep the rubber side down.

Mikey

]]> By: big jonny http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-19009 big jonny Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:15:55 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-19009 Arab bashing aside, well, I mean, have you ever read the shit Response sends in? Those are not the first emails of his we've posted. There is shit of his going back years on this site. He doesn't ever much hold back. And, because I've actually met the man, I can tell you he ain't all that serious - he's laughing as he types. Does that make it all right? Less offensive, or more? Up to you to decide. I digress... Drunkcyclist.com: Where it's all about the bike. Yes, L.A. has done a lot for cycling in the US. Whether that means bringing people to the sport through watching OLN or VS, building up the bike market with increased sales, more participation in races - he's done all that. And, of course, he has also done a whole hell of a lot for cancer research. And I applaud him on both counts. But that doesn't mean he wasn't doped to the gills. Arab bashing aside, well, I mean, have you ever read the shit Response sends in? Those are not the first emails of his we’ve posted. There is shit of his going back years on this site. He doesn’t ever much hold back. And, because I’ve actually met the man, I can tell you he ain’t all that serious – he’s laughing as he types. Does that make it all right? Less offensive, or more? Up to you to decide.

I digress…

Drunkcyclist.com: Where it’s all about the bike.

Yes, L.A. has done a lot for cycling in the US. Whether that means bringing people to the sport through watching OLN or VS, building up the bike market with increased sales, more participation in races – he’s done all that. And, of course, he has also done a whole hell of a lot for cancer research.

And I applaud him on both counts.

But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t doped to the gills.

]]> By: Nash Boots http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-18976 Nash Boots Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:25:34 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-18976 The irony of you now quoting LA is amazing. Suddenly his word is final and all encompassing? If you have not read his book, then perhaps you should. If you have, then perhaps you should read it again, because you seemed to have missed his point. Applying his quote to refute my comment, also tells that you missed my point entirely. Additionally, your callous regard for the future of the sport and the riders who are talented enough to participate despite the doping of other riders, comes across as bitter and narcissistic. The angry victim tirades are tired and played out. One would hope for more from the new steward of D.C. It is also unsettling to read the anti Arab rhetoric here. It is unfortunate that anger and division now permeates so much of this site. Pedals should not be turned in anger, nor should angry words be impulsively thrown around that are hurtful. Bicycles are a unifying force. Again, they along with all fellow cyclists, should be the focus. The constant focus on the negative is not healing and ultimately counter productive to the two wheeled movement and culture. The irony of you now quoting LA is amazing. Suddenly his word is final and all encompassing? If you have not read his book, then perhaps you should. If you have, then perhaps you should read it again, because you seemed to have missed his point. Applying his quote to refute my comment, also tells that you missed my point entirely. Additionally, your callous regard for the future of the sport and the riders who are talented enough to participate despite the doping of other riders, comes across as bitter and narcissistic. The angry victim tirades are tired and played out. One would hope for more from the new steward of D.C.
It is also unsettling to read the anti Arab rhetoric here. It is unfortunate that anger and division now permeates so much of this site. Pedals should not be turned in anger, nor should angry words be impulsively thrown around that are hurtful. Bicycles are a unifying force. Again, they along with all fellow cyclists, should be the focus. The constant focus on the negative is not healing and ultimately counter productive to the two wheeled movement and culture.

]]> By: Gnome http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-18891 Gnome Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:27:48 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-18891 Durka? Lance has clearly stated that it is "not about the bike" so you're just here confusing the message. Thanks. I was a cat 1 cyclist for a handful of years and was able to match the likes of a few reputable national level pros. I was there while, even in the U.S., relatively unknown Domestics were investing in various forms of "doping" in order to gain more than they could on their own ability. I lost out on a fair chance because of that. Fuck every doper in existence and if it takes the sport down with it, so be it. Durka? Lance has clearly stated that it is “not about the bike” so you’re just here confusing the message. Thanks.

I was a cat 1 cyclist for a handful of years and was able to match the likes of a few reputable national level pros. I was there while, even in the U.S., relatively unknown Domestics were investing in various forms of “doping” in order to gain more than they could on their own ability. I lost out on a fair chance because of that.

Fuck every doper in existence and if it takes the sport down with it, so be it.

]]> By: Nash Boots http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-18874 Nash Boots Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:15:18 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-18874 I have been a regular D.C. visitor for a few years now. I must admit to being tired of all the L.A. bashing. It would be so much better if the focus was on the positive elements of his contribution to the two wheeled world. His ride this weekend was extremely impressive. He obliterated every other previous best time for the event. The guy shreds in the dirt. How many riders that have had so much success on the road, could show up to an event of that magnitude and difficulty, and ride on the same level as Wiens. Props to him for riding because he enjoys riding. This site is suppose to be about enthusiasm for all types of cycling. Clearly, the sport is in a state of crisis. However, there is a newer trend toward cleaning up the sport. Does constantly ranting about riders testing positive, or crucifying riders who are suspected of doping, benefit this current trend? There has been for decades now a culture in the peloton that condoned doping. Why do so many of the visitors to this site seem so surprised by the depth of it. To have followed the sport for any continued period of time, is to have known about it. Let's return to the most important part of the sport, the bike. With this return, let us support each other as cyclists and fellow members of the two wheeled world. Stay up right, and ride like you do. I have been a regular D.C. visitor for a few years now. I must admit to being tired of all the L.A. bashing. It would be so much better if the focus was on the positive elements of his contribution to the two wheeled world. His ride this weekend was extremely impressive. He obliterated every other previous best time for the event. The guy shreds in the dirt. How many riders that have had so much success on the road, could show up to an event of that magnitude and difficulty, and ride on the same level as Wiens. Props to him for riding because he enjoys riding. This site is suppose to be about enthusiasm for all types of cycling. Clearly, the sport is in a state of crisis. However, there is a newer trend toward cleaning up the sport. Does constantly ranting about riders testing positive, or crucifying riders who are suspected of doping, benefit this current trend? There has been for decades now a culture in the peloton that condoned doping. Why do so many of the visitors to this site seem so surprised by the depth of it. To have followed the sport for any continued period of time, is to have known about it. Let’s return to the most important part of the sport, the bike. With this return, let us support each other as cyclists and fellow members of the two wheeled world.
Stay up right, and ride like you do.

]]> By: butthead http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-18842 butthead Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:33:57 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-18842 bunch of sick motherfuckers word to the lead heads Dave Wiens has fucking retard strength bunch of sick motherfuckers

word to the lead heads

Dave Wiens has fucking retard strength

]]> By: Mikey http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-18838 Mikey Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:38:56 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-18838 Wow, awesome race, awesome video, thanks Robbo. Mikey Wow, awesome race, awesome video, thanks Robbo.

Mikey

]]> By: dentext http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-18831 dentext Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:08:35 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-18831 dank nug? cannabinoids frequently enhance performance. The air is mighty thin up there. training and acclimation is the shit. Despite simple minded thinking from TV (ehem..the media), and politicians..and nothin simple about most things these days. (cept turning cranks in the middle of no-where all alone) Shit's complex. LA..with 99% certainty he doped in a doped field, and still managed to pull out 7. He still managed to bang world class poon without embarrassing himself too much. I've watched old room mates become certified rock stars...everyone all day forever tells you about how great you are, year on year. People throw stacks n stacks of 100 dollar bills at you. (Throw a fucking tiny stack o Ben's near me, and I'd go apeshit like paris hilton in a dildo shop full of crack) If you can get through that with at least a little humility, well a #2 in the high mountains aint so bad at all. Texas has been kinda fucked up extreme in the leadership/hero area lately, if you ain't noticed. Lance, warts n all, is OK. Hope he takes it next year. When I was little, in a barber shop in Hurst tx, Roger Staubach got his hair cut in the chair next to mine. I thought he was fucking just about god. Now that I'm a 4x year old man, I know a lot his life & mind was fucked up, but he's still some kinda icon in my mind. Let LA be that for people. dank nug?
cannabinoids frequently enhance performance.
The air is mighty thin up there. training and acclimation is the shit.

Despite simple minded thinking from TV (ehem..the media), and politicians..and nothin simple about most things these days. (cept turning cranks in the middle of no-where all alone)
Shit’s complex.

LA..with 99% certainty he doped in a doped field, and still managed to pull out 7. He still managed to bang world class poon without embarrassing himself too much.
I’ve watched old room mates become certified rock stars…everyone all day forever tells you about how great you are, year on year. People throw stacks n stacks of 100 dollar bills at you.
(Throw a fucking tiny stack o Ben’s near me, and I’d go apeshit like paris hilton in a dildo shop full of crack)
If you can get through that with at least a little humility, well a #2 in the high mountains aint so bad at all.

Texas has been kinda fucked up extreme in the leadership/hero area lately, if you ain’t noticed.
Lance, warts n all, is OK.
Hope he takes it next year.

When I was little, in a barber shop in Hurst tx, Roger Staubach got his hair cut in the chair next to mine. I thought he was fucking just about god. Now that I’m a 4x year old man, I know a lot his life & mind was fucked up, but he’s still some kinda icon in my mind.
Let LA be that for people.

]]> By: Robbo http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/08/09/early-results-dc-puts-stamp-on-l-ville-100/#comment-18824 Robbo Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:21:25 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/?p=2672#comment-18824 Ooooopps, wrong again..... http://www.superhumanmag.com/content/view/763/92/ Ooooopps, wrong again…..

http://www.superhumanmag.com/content/view/763/92/

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