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	<title>Comments on: Barack Obama takes Iowa.</title>
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		<title>By: el jefe</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6348</link>
		<dc:creator>el jefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you actually looked at Paul?  He&#039;s a throwback to Reagan, who saddled us with huge deficits.  Corporate deregulation worked so well.  Remember the S&amp;L scandal?  We&#039;re going to be paying for that for a long time.  The corporate deregulation under him bred the Enron debacle.  (I guess there was a lot of good cocaine, but I missed out on all of that.)  He&#039;s a racist.  He&#039;s taken money from stormfront.  He doesn&#039;t believe in evolution.  He wants to repeal Roe v. Wade.  He needs to go away.  He represents Galveston, TX, which is not a home to many progressives.  Do some actual research on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you actually looked at Paul?  He&#8217;s a throwback to Reagan, who saddled us with huge deficits.  Corporate deregulation worked so well.  Remember the S&amp;L scandal?  We&#8217;re going to be paying for that for a long time.  The corporate deregulation under him bred the Enron debacle.  (I guess there was a lot of good cocaine, but I missed out on all of that.)  He&#8217;s a racist.  He&#8217;s taken money from stormfront.  He doesn&#8217;t believe in evolution.  He wants to repeal Roe v. Wade.  He needs to go away.  He represents Galveston, TX, which is not a home to many progressives.  Do some actual research on him.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6346</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;teaching lessons&quot;...hmmm. How about instead of trading tit for tat we elect a public servant who helps us move forward. As far as paying attention, have you really noticed huge differences between status quo left and status quo right? Big, corporate, multinational government is a Dempublican enterprise that prefers citizens call each names. I hear The Who singing, &quot;Meet the new boss - same as the old boss.&quot;

To me, Ron Paul looks like the smartest choice for America citizens. Definitely worth an honest appraisal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;teaching lessons&#8221;&#8230;hmmm. How about instead of trading tit for tat we elect a public servant who helps us move forward. As far as paying attention, have you really noticed huge differences between status quo left and status quo right? Big, corporate, multinational government is a Dempublican enterprise that prefers citizens call each names. I hear The Who singing, &#8220;Meet the new boss &#8211; same as the old boss.&#8221;</p>
<p>To me, Ron Paul looks like the smartest choice for America citizens. Definitely worth an honest appraisal.</p>
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		<title>By: bikepunk</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6341</link>
		<dc:creator>bikepunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im not 15, I just want a SHORT period of them tasting their own medicine. I do believe I said.. 

&quot;Let’s say 2 years where they are as impotent as a Vegas boxing comissioner.&quot;

(Its the second post In case you skipped down, Like it would seem...)

Then I go on to say...

&quot;Then invite them to play along. &quot;

So yes, I think that getting everyone together is not the worst of ideas. In fact, everyone who acts like a spoiled rotten child DESERVES a time-out, R or D.

It just so happens that the Rep&#039;s have been in charge for the last forever-time and need a time-out so they can realize they aren&#039;t an only child and need to share as well as the other kids in class.

fuck me for having a stronger than wonder-bread opinion on the matter, but these fuckers need to be taught a lesson. And if they aren&#039;t then they will do it over and over again. 
This goes for spineless Dem&#039;s as well. If they don&#039;t start taking control and standing up to the R&#039;s then they deserve to get sidelined, and no amount of bitching will do them any good.

Im tired of being nice and ploite. When was the last time a Rep reached across the aisle and tried to be bi-partisan about ANYTHING???

Fuck that. Time to get serious. It&#039;s about our fucking country, fer fucks&#039; sake. 

If you&#039;re not outraged, you&#039;re not paying attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not 15, I just want a SHORT period of them tasting their own medicine. I do believe I said.. </p>
<p>&#8220;Let’s say 2 years where they are as impotent as a Vegas boxing comissioner.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Its the second post In case you skipped down, Like it would seem&#8230;)</p>
<p>Then I go on to say&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Then invite them to play along. &#8221;</p>
<p>So yes, I think that getting everyone together is not the worst of ideas. In fact, everyone who acts like a spoiled rotten child DESERVES a time-out, R or D.</p>
<p>It just so happens that the Rep&#8217;s have been in charge for the last forever-time and need a time-out so they can realize they aren&#8217;t an only child and need to share as well as the other kids in class.</p>
<p>fuck me for having a stronger than wonder-bread opinion on the matter, but these fuckers need to be taught a lesson. And if they aren&#8217;t then they will do it over and over again.<br />
This goes for spineless Dem&#8217;s as well. If they don&#8217;t start taking control and standing up to the R&#8217;s then they deserve to get sidelined, and no amount of bitching will do them any good.</p>
<p>Im tired of being nice and ploite. When was the last time a Rep reached across the aisle and tried to be bi-partisan about ANYTHING???</p>
<p>Fuck that. Time to get serious. It&#8217;s about our fucking country, fer fucks&#8217; sake. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not outraged, you&#8217;re not paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: el jefe</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6339</link>
		<dc:creator>el jefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to believe that the US has come far enough to elect either a  black man or a woman, but I don&#039;t know.  The turnout in Iowa gives me some hope, but we have to remember that there&#039;s only been one state, and there&#039;s 49 to go.

Even as a progressive white male, I can&#039;t stand Hillary, and hope that she isn&#039;t the Democratic nominee.  I&#039;ll vote for her if I have to, but that&#039;s it.  I think both Obama and Edwards will do a better job.  I know lots of women who think the same.  She&#039;s a political opportunist, and I don&#039;t trust her.  Experience my ass.  Throwing tea parties as first lady (national and state) does not give her experience.  

I think the Republicans are in a similar situation to what the Democrats have often been in.  None of their candidates are great.  Huckabee pisses off the neo and corporo cons.  Romney pisses off the theo and neo cons.  Guilani pisses off the corporo and theo cons, and is a first rate dickhead.  Grandpa Fred acts like he doesn&#039;t even know the issues or want the job.  McCain and Romney have flipped on so many issues they don&#039;t know what to think.  And, Paul?  Well he&#039;s just batshit crazy.  I&#039;d like to see the whole thing split the republicans.

I wish Obama wasn&#039;t so ready to compromise, but at this point he&#039;s got to.  If he gets to divisive the independents and the center go away.  Hopefully the under-30 crowd can keep up the enthusiasm of Iowa and keep driving the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to believe that the US has come far enough to elect either a  black man or a woman, but I don&#8217;t know.  The turnout in Iowa gives me some hope, but we have to remember that there&#8217;s only been one state, and there&#8217;s 49 to go.</p>
<p>Even as a progressive white male, I can&#8217;t stand Hillary, and hope that she isn&#8217;t the Democratic nominee.  I&#8217;ll vote for her if I have to, but that&#8217;s it.  I think both Obama and Edwards will do a better job.  I know lots of women who think the same.  She&#8217;s a political opportunist, and I don&#8217;t trust her.  Experience my ass.  Throwing tea parties as first lady (national and state) does not give her experience.  </p>
<p>I think the Republicans are in a similar situation to what the Democrats have often been in.  None of their candidates are great.  Huckabee pisses off the neo and corporo cons.  Romney pisses off the theo and neo cons.  Guilani pisses off the corporo and theo cons, and is a first rate dickhead.  Grandpa Fred acts like he doesn&#8217;t even know the issues or want the job.  McCain and Romney have flipped on so many issues they don&#8217;t know what to think.  And, Paul?  Well he&#8217;s just batshit crazy.  I&#8217;d like to see the whole thing split the republicans.</p>
<p>I wish Obama wasn&#8217;t so ready to compromise, but at this point he&#8217;s got to.  If he gets to divisive the independents and the center go away.  Hopefully the under-30 crowd can keep up the enthusiasm of Iowa and keep driving the election.</p>
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		<title>By: bikesgonewild</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6338</link>
		<dc:creator>bikesgonewild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...sore...you&#039;re a voice of reason w/ some good points but you act like you don&#039;t understand the abject frustration felt by some of us...

...frustration w/ the fact that even w/ the best of leadership, it would take this country years, if ever, to get back to it&#039;s true ideals, after the drubbing it&#039;s taken...

...frustration w/ the fact that, while big business will always be a fact of life, we have an administration dedicated solely to the good of the few, while it&#039;s wrapped in a flag of red, white &amp; blue patriotism &amp; being stuffed down our collective throats...

...frustration w/ a republican right wing who&#039;s extreme is a machine dedicated to disinformation &amp; backed by a conservative majority w/out the balls to stand up &amp; deny it...

...frustrated w/ the fact that the democrat party can prove itself to be so consistently ineffectual...

...&amp; maybe, just maybe, frustrated by the fact that the democratic process, which we were taught as kids &amp; have held near &amp; dear to our hearts all our lives, can appear to be so divisive &amp; manipulating...

...just a thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;sore&#8230;you&#8217;re a voice of reason w/ some good points but you act like you don&#8217;t understand the abject frustration felt by some of us&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;frustration w/ the fact that even w/ the best of leadership, it would take this country years, if ever, to get back to it&#8217;s true ideals, after the drubbing it&#8217;s taken&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;frustration w/ the fact that, while big business will always be a fact of life, we have an administration dedicated solely to the good of the few, while it&#8217;s wrapped in a flag of red, white &amp; blue patriotism &amp; being stuffed down our collective throats&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;frustration w/ a republican right wing who&#8217;s extreme is a machine dedicated to disinformation &amp; backed by a conservative majority w/out the balls to stand up &amp; deny it&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;frustrated w/ the fact that the democrat party can prove itself to be so consistently ineffectual&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&amp; maybe, just maybe, frustrated by the fact that the democratic process, which we were taught as kids &amp; have held near &amp; dear to our hearts all our lives, can appear to be so divisive &amp; manipulating&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;just a thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fore</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6337</link>
		<dc:creator>fore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama can really give a good speech, I’ll give him that. But I really don’t want compromise right off. I really want the Republicans to get a taste of their own shitty medicine.&quot;

&quot;the biggest problem is that he is too ready to ‘reach across the aisle’ to the republicans. I’d like to see the Republicans get a time-out. Let’s say 2 years where they are as impotent as a Vegas boxing comissioner. Let them feel the stig of being sidelined like they did to the dems for the last 16 years.&quot;

what the fuck is this? middle school? this revenge you seek isn&#039;t going to fix anything.

we can put someone in office that&#039;ll give it to the republicans as they&#039;ve given it to the democrats, and next time the republicans find themselves in charge you can bet your ass they&#039;ll return the favor, and so on, and so on, and so on, and nothing will ever get fixed. in fact, it&#039;ll probably end up worse.

what i like about obama is the fact that he does want to compromise. compromise is how shit gets fixed. everyone eschews partisan politics but the second we&#039;ve got the chance to put someone into office that wants to cooperate with the other side, those same people suddenly turn 15 years old again and now want their elected official to turn to schoolyard revenge tactics.

well, fuck that, i say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama can really give a good speech, I’ll give him that. But I really don’t want compromise right off. I really want the Republicans to get a taste of their own shitty medicine.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;the biggest problem is that he is too ready to ‘reach across the aisle’ to the republicans. I’d like to see the Republicans get a time-out. Let’s say 2 years where they are as impotent as a Vegas boxing comissioner. Let them feel the stig of being sidelined like they did to the dems for the last 16 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>what the fuck is this? middle school? this revenge you seek isn&#8217;t going to fix anything.</p>
<p>we can put someone in office that&#8217;ll give it to the republicans as they&#8217;ve given it to the democrats, and next time the republicans find themselves in charge you can bet your ass they&#8217;ll return the favor, and so on, and so on, and so on, and nothing will ever get fixed. in fact, it&#8217;ll probably end up worse.</p>
<p>what i like about obama is the fact that he does want to compromise. compromise is how shit gets fixed. everyone eschews partisan politics but the second we&#8217;ve got the chance to put someone into office that wants to cooperate with the other side, those same people suddenly turn 15 years old again and now want their elected official to turn to schoolyard revenge tactics.</p>
<p>well, fuck that, i say.</p>
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		<title>By: el jefe</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6336</link>
		<dc:creator>el jefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EK,
Who you callin&#039; a moron, moron?  If you have some other evidence, show it.  Otherwise shut up.  How are either myself or bikepunk wrong?  We&#039;re not.  Large and Fit was repeating an incorrect statement, which was originally published and then repeated on Fox as an attempt to instill racial fear in people about a candidate that the right is actually afraid of.  Anyways, my info came from snopes.com.

Wiki isn&#039;t an accepted citation in acadamia because there is no official peer review process, and thus can not be considered an academic journal.  It is often right, but there are some problems, like industry hacks writing the company wiki entry (look into Pepsi which has been caught doing this).  It should be taken with a grain of salt, but it&#039;s going to be a whole shitload more accurate than conservapedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EK,<br />
Who you callin&#8217; a moron, moron?  If you have some other evidence, show it.  Otherwise shut up.  How are either myself or bikepunk wrong?  We&#8217;re not.  Large and Fit was repeating an incorrect statement, which was originally published and then repeated on Fox as an attempt to instill racial fear in people about a candidate that the right is actually afraid of.  Anyways, my info came from snopes.com.</p>
<p>Wiki isn&#8217;t an accepted citation in acadamia because there is no official peer review process, and thus can not be considered an academic journal.  It is often right, but there are some problems, like industry hacks writing the company wiki entry (look into Pepsi which has been caught doing this).  It should be taken with a grain of salt, but it&#8217;s going to be a whole shitload more accurate than conservapedia.</p>
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		<title>By: DrunkenBiker</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6335</link>
		<dc:creator>DrunkenBiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well. I fucked that link up.

Now who&#039;s the moron eh ??

It&#039;s me of course.

ha ha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well. I fucked that link up.</p>
<p>Now who&#8217;s the moron eh ??</p>
<p>It&#8217;s me of course.</p>
<p>ha ha</p>
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		<title>By: Large and Fit</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6334</link>
		<dc:creator>Large and Fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no clue what the Republicans are doing with their ticket.  Who are these guys.  Thompson looks as old as my catchers mit.  McCocksucker is just that but older 

Same question, do we think a balck man or white woman is electable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no clue what the Republicans are doing with their ticket.  Who are these guys.  Thompson looks as old as my catchers mit.  McCocksucker is just that but older </p>
<p>Same question, do we think a balck man or white woman is electable</p>
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		<title>By: DrunkenBiker</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6333</link>
		<dc:creator>DrunkenBiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wiki ain&#039;t my fav but a simple Google search brought up dozens of sites that verify BP&#039;s post.

&lt;a&gt;Google this&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wiki ain&#8217;t my fav but a simple Google search brought up dozens of sites that verify BP&#8217;s post.</p>
<p><a>Google this</a></p>
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		<title>By: EK</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6332</link>
		<dc:creator>EK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey moron, you just used wiki to prove your point.  Idiots such as you can post crap on this site and thats why schools across the nation do not consider this a credible resource. Just like all the other crap you post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey moron, you just used wiki to prove your point.  Idiots such as you can post crap on this site and thats why schools across the nation do not consider this a credible resource. Just like all the other crap you post.</p>
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		<title>By: woogie</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2008/01/03/barack-obama-takes-iowa/#comment-6331</link>
		<dc:creator>woogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so everyone doesn&#039;t get their knickers in a twist about my comments...I am not a registered Republican or Democrat for that matter.

Here&#039;s the big problem with the Democrats, they are so afraid to be labeled bigoted that they will vote in a way that they won&#039;t appear as such.  If they don&#039;t like Clinton they vote for Obama, if they don&#039;t like Obama they vote for Hilary.  In either case they are voting for a minority and it makes them feel good.

The one thing they won&#039;t do is vote for Edwards, a white male, because it would make them look anti-minority, even if they did feel he had the best platform.

In the end it is all going to come down to swinging independents and disgruntled Republicans.  While Clinton and Obama appeal to the hard core Democrats, will they have the ability to pull other than Democrats in the Presidential election?

The Democrats need to look past the primaries to what is the real goal of this election, the White House, and put forward a candidate that can get them there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so everyone doesn&#8217;t get their knickers in a twist about my comments&#8230;I am not a registered Republican or Democrat for that matter.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the big problem with the Democrats, they are so afraid to be labeled bigoted that they will vote in a way that they won&#8217;t appear as such.  If they don&#8217;t like Clinton they vote for Obama, if they don&#8217;t like Obama they vote for Hilary.  In either case they are voting for a minority and it makes them feel good.</p>
<p>The one thing they won&#8217;t do is vote for Edwards, a white male, because it would make them look anti-minority, even if they did feel he had the best platform.</p>
<p>In the end it is all going to come down to swinging independents and disgruntled Republicans.  While Clinton and Obama appeal to the hard core Democrats, will they have the ability to pull other than Democrats in the Presidential election?</p>
<p>The Democrats need to look past the primaries to what is the real goal of this election, the White House, and put forward a candidate that can get them there.</p>
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