Comments on: Potential trouble for Ragbrai http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/ Two Wheels. One Dark Lord. Thu, 24 May 2012 06:26:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jeffrey http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5296 Jeffrey Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:25:19 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5296 Problem: Crawford County's road are in a dangerous condition resulting in the death of one cyclist. Crawford County solution: Ban bicycling events. Did it ever occur to the elected officials of Crawford County that the proper solution would be to fix the roads so people are not injured or killed? Problem: Crawford County’s road are in a dangerous condition resulting in the death of one cyclist.

Crawford County solution: Ban bicycling events.

Did it ever occur to the elected officials of Crawford County that the proper solution would be to fix the roads so people are not injured or killed?

]]> By: Joe Miller http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5293 Joe Miller Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:02:23 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5293 Opus you Twit, the plaintiff didn't win aginst the county. It was an out of court settlement. Opus you Twit, the plaintiff didn’t win aginst the county. It was an out of court settlement.

]]> By: Opus the Poet http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5291 Opus the Poet Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:28:11 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5291 The thing that really gets me is there would have been no liability exposure at all had the count(ies)y maintained their roads to legal standards. The only reason the plaintiff won against the county was the county had broken the law regarding road conditions relating to maintenence, and somebody lost their life as a result. If the priciple of soveriegn immunity hadn't been applied the actual fuckup that had decided to "save money" by not keeping that stretch of road up to standards would have been liable instead of the county taxpayers. BTW liability insurance doesn't cover acts of lawbreaking so the taxpayers got dinged instead of the insurance company. I think the county should turn around and sue the fuckup that shot them in the foot by allowing the road to get in that bad a condition that a bike tire could get caught in the pavement. I think the legal term is subrogate, but I got hit with a pickup truck so that might not be right. Opus The thing that really gets me is there would have been no liability exposure at all had the count(ies)y maintained their roads to legal standards. The only reason the plaintiff won against the county was the county had broken the law regarding road conditions relating to maintenence, and somebody lost their life as a result. If the priciple of soveriegn immunity hadn’t been applied the actual fuckup that had decided to “save money” by not keeping that stretch of road up to standards would have been liable instead of the county taxpayers. BTW liability insurance doesn’t cover acts of lawbreaking so the taxpayers got dinged instead of the insurance company. I think the county should turn around and sue the fuckup that shot them in the foot by allowing the road to get in that bad a condition that a bike tire could get caught in the pavement. I think the legal term is subrogate, but I got hit with a pickup truck so that might not be right.

Opus

]]> By: the mostly reverend http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5289 the mostly reverend Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:05:14 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5289 what they NEVER mention is that the county's ONLY financial exposure was the $5000 deductible. their insurance carrier paid the balance. so the county board of supervisors is passing up the hundreds of thousands of dollars that ragbrai riders and others spend in their passage each day because of $5000. by the way, many groups are planning SEVERAL pirate bike rides in and around crawford county in the coming months. join us! the mostly reverend what they NEVER mention is that the county’s ONLY financial exposure was the $5000 deductible. their insurance carrier paid the balance.

so the county board of supervisors is passing up the hundreds of thousands of dollars that ragbrai riders and others spend in their passage each day because of $5000.

by the way, many groups are planning SEVERAL pirate bike rides in and around crawford county in the coming months.

join us!

the mostly reverend

]]> By: manfromthemitten http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5280 manfromthemitten Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:47:36 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5280 Why doesn't Ragbrai just charge a few more bucks per person, and get an insurance rider for such problems? USA cycling does it, and it costs like 5 bucks per rider. Aside from the obvious dumbness of someone who sues a county because he can't ride a fucking bike in a straight line, or look where in the hell he is going, why don't they throw dumb ass lawsuits like that out of court? It is very sad and unfortunate that a fellow cyclist passed away, but come on, take some fucking responsibilty. I am sure the deceased rider's family was trying to make a quick buck, but shit....for a moment, take your eyes of of your shiny new trek, complete with SRM pro, blah blah, and look up!!! Why doesn’t Ragbrai just charge a few more bucks per person, and get an insurance rider for such problems? USA cycling does it, and it costs like 5 bucks per rider.

Aside from the obvious dumbness of someone who sues a county because he can’t ride a fucking bike in a straight line, or look where in the hell he is going, why don’t they throw dumb ass lawsuits like that out of court?

It is very sad and unfortunate that a fellow cyclist passed away, but come on, take some fucking responsibilty. I am sure the deceased rider’s family was trying to make a quick buck, but shit….for a moment, take your eyes of of your shiny new trek, complete with SRM pro, blah blah, and look up!!!

]]> By: nikromatt http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5273 nikromatt Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:02:03 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/12/03/potential-trouble-for-ragbrai/#comment-5273 I read this original article. And I am still baffled as to how a county can ban what is considered a vehicle by the state from using state roadways. I read this original article. And I am still baffled as to how a county can ban what is considered a vehicle by the state from using state roadways.

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