Comments on: Don’t read this post if you like keeping your head in the sand. http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/ Two Wheels. One Dark Lord. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:50:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dave http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4589 dave Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:56:13 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4589 BTW...I'm in Canada right now working at a hospital in Montreal for 3 months....Nationalized Healthcare is NOT the answer!! BTW…I’m in Canada right now working at a hospital in Montreal for 3 months….Nationalized Healthcare is NOT the answer!!

]]> By: dave http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4588 dave Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:55:10 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4588 www.systmesthinker.com go to the view on politics link for information on instant run off voting, political truths, etc. http://www.systmesthinker.com go to the view on politics link for information on instant run off voting, political truths, etc.

]]> By: dd http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4582 dd Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:58:11 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4582 As long as you don't make millions you are okay. One inerseting note is that Aaron Russo was in trouble for evasion and had leans against his property. I also watched the interview with Russo in which he stated that 9-11 was fixed by Federal Reserve insiders to get Americans to approve of military actions in the middle east. Russo also died this summer, coincidence? As long as you don’t make millions you are okay. One inerseting note is that Aaron Russo was in trouble for evasion and had leans against his property. I also watched the interview with Russo in which he stated that 9-11 was fixed by Federal Reserve insiders to get Americans to approve of military actions in the middle east. Russo also died this summer, coincidence?

]]> By: chopper http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4577 chopper Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:04:42 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4577 all i can say is wow. 40 posts. this is democracy! but wait ultimately google and its successors will control the last truly free salon of discussion since we lost tv and radio to GE Viacom and the like. i am probably on the "no travel" list now for being a dissident. but seriously, you don;t have the time or $ to win in court if you don't pay up at the end of the year. the one place where i question the movie are the court cases which have freed income tax "evaders". so put a dumbshit smile on your face and pay up suckers. but begin to precipitate change. all i can say is wow. 40 posts. this is democracy! but wait ultimately google and its successors will control the last truly free salon of discussion since we lost tv and radio to GE Viacom and the like. i am probably on the “no travel” list now for being a dissident.

but seriously, you don;t have the time or $ to win in court if you don’t pay up at the end of the year. the one place where i question the movie are the court cases which have freed income tax “evaders”. so put a dumbshit smile on your face and pay up suckers.

but begin to precipitate change.

]]> By: mtbrider http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4565 mtbrider Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:43:47 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4565 So, Who is not filing a Federal income tax return this year? how about next year? I think this issue is less about the presidential candidates, and more about how the American people are waking up. It's just beginning. So, Who is not filing a Federal income tax return this year? how about next year?

I think this issue is less about the presidential candidates, and more about how the American people are waking up. It’s just beginning.

]]> By: bikepunk http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4563 bikepunk Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:36:44 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4563 The 16th amendment was supposed to be ratified WITHOUT ANY CHANGES. Many states changed the wording, many re-wrote the entire thing. THAT is why it was never properly ratified, and why Income Tax should not be collected. The 16th amendment was supposed to be ratified WITHOUT ANY CHANGES. Many states changed the wording, many re-wrote the entire thing. THAT is why it was never properly ratified, and why Income Tax should not be collected.

]]> By: bifurcated monkey http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4558 bifurcated monkey Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:12:41 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4558 did you watch the movie? not saying that as a dick but it seemed to me the movie wasn't saying no taxes, it was saying no income tax, and then pointed out how income tax doesn't pay for any of that stuff anyway. if you believe the movie. i don't believe anything i hear and half of what i see, sound advice from Lou Reed. did you watch the movie? not saying that as a dick but it seemed to me the movie wasn’t saying no taxes, it was saying no income tax, and then pointed out how income tax doesn’t pay for any of that stuff anyway. if you believe the movie. i don’t believe anything i hear and half of what i see, sound advice from Lou Reed.

]]> By: Bike Rider http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4557 Bike Rider Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:11:53 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4557 No taxes = No roads to ride bikes on No forests to ride bikes in No fireman to save your house No policemen to protect your gal Less hospitals to save your ass after being hit by a car No military to protect you from invasion Of course we can't invade anyone either So do you want to speak a different language or deal with Iraq? No help in natural disasters (though FEMA sucks) The list goes on and on. No taxes =

No roads to ride bikes on
No forests to ride bikes in
No fireman to save your house
No policemen to protect your gal
Less hospitals to save your ass after being hit by a car
No military to protect you from invasion
Of course we can’t invade anyone either
So do you want to speak a different language or deal with Iraq?
No help in natural disasters (though FEMA sucks)
The list goes on and on.

]]> By: bifurcated monkey http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4556 bifurcated monkey Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:40:07 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4556 thanks chopper. i really needed a headache tonight. thanks chopper. i really needed a headache tonight.

]]> By: sorelegs http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4555 sorelegs Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:08:51 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4555 Mxracer is right. Income is good. Making a buck is the american way (no sarcasm intended.) Consumption leads to depletion. I choose to minimize the shit that I spend my $ on but I know plenty of people the make a hell of a lot more money than me that consume a lot more than me but they are taxed at a lower rate than I am. That said I see the point about bitching about the 16th amnedment being foisted on us illegally. Whats done is done I see your point. But when I think about way to fix the problem I go back to what is broken. That is the point that I see that we started moving in the self distructive way that we are headed. If someone has got a suggestion for getting back to a system that gives real equality for all, I am all ears. Mxracer is right. Income is good. Making a buck is the american way (no sarcasm intended.) Consumption leads to depletion. I choose to minimize the shit that I spend my $ on but I know plenty of people the make a hell of a lot more money than me that consume a lot more than me but they are taxed at a lower rate than I am.

That said I see the point about bitching about the 16th amnedment being foisted on us illegally. Whats done is done I see your point. But when I think about way to fix the problem I go back to what is broken. That is the point that I see that we started moving in the self distructive way that we are headed. If someone has got a suggestion for getting back to a system that gives real equality for all, I am all ears.

]]> By: mxracer652 http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4553 mxracer652 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:49:12 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4553 A flat income tax is regressive, the poor are burdened with a higher cost than the rich. A consumption tax, on the other hand, isn't. A flat income tax is regressive, the poor are burdened with a higher cost than the rich.

A consumption tax, on the other hand, isn’t.

]]> By: DrunkenBiker http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4552 DrunkenBiker Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:37:02 +0000 http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/2007/11/08/dont-read-this-post-if-you-like-keeping-your-head-in-the-sand/#comment-4552 "I think the first step is to strip corporations of their personhood." I would mostly strip them of this silly notion that they should pay their "fair share" of taxes. Anything you hit them with will result in a higher price at the register. No matter how well run they are. You buy a burger at McDonalds and your paying their Federal taxes. Not them. DC raises corporate taxes, McDonalds just raises the price of a Happy Meal. You pay. The only time this notion really works is for the Ted Kaczynski's of the world who buy nothing but wire and timers and, hell, even that murderous prick paid taxes on those items. You buy anything and your paying that companies taxes. I think the main reason I have a problem with people bitching about the 16th Amendment is that I figure the buck has to stop somewhere. And for efficiency reasons the income tax makes sense to me. The ultimate end is each person. You make 10,000 dollars a year. Send in whatever%. That's it. No corporate taxes, no road tolls, tariffs, dues, fees, no nada. And that's Federal and State. You can index that percentage all you want but that's it. Income. Where the buck starts and stops tax wise. “I think the first step is to strip corporations of their personhood.”

I would mostly strip them of this silly notion that they should pay their “fair share” of taxes. Anything you hit them with will result in a higher price at the register. No matter how well run they are. You buy a burger at McDonalds and your paying their Federal taxes. Not them. DC raises corporate taxes, McDonalds just raises the price of a Happy Meal. You pay. The only time this notion really works is for the Ted Kaczynski’s of the world who buy nothing but wire and timers and, hell, even that murderous prick paid taxes on those items.

You buy anything and your paying that companies taxes.

I think the main reason I have a problem with people bitching about the 16th Amendment is that I figure the buck has to stop somewhere. And for efficiency reasons the income tax makes sense to me. The ultimate end is each person.

You make 10,000 dollars a year. Send in whatever%. That’s it. No corporate taxes, no road tolls, tariffs, dues, fees, no nada. And that’s Federal and State. You can index that percentage all you want but that’s it. Income. Where the buck starts and stops tax wise.

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