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		<title>By: sommerfliesby</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/08/29/gonzales-is-chimptastic/#comment-2736</link>
		<dc:creator>sommerfliesby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what day makes me seriously unhappy as an American citizen....the day the outgoing Prez gives out pardons.  Kind of makes everything seem insignificant, no?  All that due process tossed out the window.  Clinton&#039;s list was long and full of some amazing criminals...Bush&#039;s will be longer and worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what day makes me seriously unhappy as an American citizen&#8230;.the day the outgoing Prez gives out pardons.  Kind of makes everything seem insignificant, no?  All that due process tossed out the window.  Clinton&#8217;s list was long and full of some amazing criminals&#8230;Bush&#8217;s will be longer and worse.</p>
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		<title>By: bikesgonewild</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/08/29/gonzales-is-chimptastic/#comment-2728</link>
		<dc:creator>bikesgonewild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...bikepunk succinctly hit a few nails on the head...

...no real justice will ever be served on the criminals running this administration...there is always an out, so that a slap on the wrist is the worst result...the most egregious sins might net you time in a country club / minimum security set-up but even then, you &amp; your family are gonna be taken care of, if you haven&#039;t already squirreled away a illegal fortune...

...said it before...the rules of the game have been changed by this &#039;regime&#039;...more damage to personal freedom &amp; political integrity (if that&#039;s not an oxymoron) has been done by bushco than most of population could ever imagine...we might rant &amp; rail against it, but again, its too late, the damage has been done &amp; they will ultimately get away with it...the evidence is there...they have been getting away w/ it for years.

...ya, sunshine is the best disinfectant, but that&#039;s only gonna allow us as individuals to find a little personal &#039;cleansing&#039;...when ya been bathed in bullshit for years, sunshine&#039;s bound to feel good...

...it&#039;s like we&#039;ve achieved a three major party system, democrats, republicans &amp; bushco...even staunch party republicans express concern &amp; dismay over the steamroller tactics  of the bush / cheney juggernaut...

...maybe a party change will bring about some political surface changes, but it&#039;s guaran-fucking-teed, we&#039;ve got some seriously deep problems to contend with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;bikepunk succinctly hit a few nails on the head&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;no real justice will ever be served on the criminals running this administration&#8230;there is always an out, so that a slap on the wrist is the worst result&#8230;the most egregious sins might net you time in a country club / minimum security set-up but even then, you &amp; your family are gonna be taken care of, if you haven&#8217;t already squirreled away a illegal fortune&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;said it before&#8230;the rules of the game have been changed by this &#8216;regime&#8217;&#8230;more damage to personal freedom &amp; political integrity (if that&#8217;s not an oxymoron) has been done by bushco than most of population could ever imagine&#8230;we might rant &amp; rail against it, but again, its too late, the damage has been done &amp; they will ultimately get away with it&#8230;the evidence is there&#8230;they have been getting away w/ it for years.</p>
<p>&#8230;ya, sunshine is the best disinfectant, but that&#8217;s only gonna allow us as individuals to find a little personal &#8216;cleansing&#8217;&#8230;when ya been bathed in bullshit for years, sunshine&#8217;s bound to feel good&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;it&#8217;s like we&#8217;ve achieved a three major party system, democrats, republicans &amp; bushco&#8230;even staunch party republicans express concern &amp; dismay over the steamroller tactics  of the bush / cheney juggernaut&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;maybe a party change will bring about some political surface changes, but it&#8217;s guaran-fucking-teed, we&#8217;ve got some seriously deep problems to contend with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Les Edwards</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/08/29/gonzales-is-chimptastic/#comment-2715</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right on, bikepunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right on, bikepunk.</p>
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		<title>By: bikepunk</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/08/29/gonzales-is-chimptastic/#comment-2706</link>
		<dc:creator>bikepunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reno : Elian Gonzales was a clusterfuck from the word go. Yes, he deserves to be with his Father, but taking him from the house at gunpoint was insane and wrong. That was politics pure and simple. You don&#039;t think it cost the Dem&#039;s HUGE in the following election?


Ruby Ridge : Fucked up as it can get. Trace THAT back to Bush 1&#039;s insane zero-tolerance policy and all the insane laws passed about how the cops can take everything you have on the mere suspicion that you are doing something illegal, and then they can keep it, sell it, do whatever. And you have no recourse.[sic] Again, that shit goes to the insane &#039;War On Drugs&quot; which is another example of a never-ending war. That had more to do with local agents and their office than Reno&#039;s directly dictating policy.


Waco : Jim Jones for our generation. Ironically, this ended up being a training operation for many &#039;elite forces&#039; from around the world. And it was fucked the minute they decided to use incendiary grenades etc. to try to &#039;flush them out&#039;. Bad planning and worse execution. Who thought using fire in a part of Texas that is so damn dry and filled with tinder was a good idea? Just plain stupid.

[from Wikipedia : &quot;The FBI became increasingly concerned that the Davidians were going to commit mass suicide, as had happened at Jonestown when 900 people killed themselves at their leader&#039;s behest. The then-newly appointed U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno approved the recommendations of the FBI to mount an assault after being told that conditions were deteriorating and children were being abused inside the compound.&quot;]
Yeah... newly appointed AG who followed the recommendations of the FBI. 

BUT

That was not comparable to Gonzales justifying the use of torture; nor is it comparable to Reno taking full responsibility for what happened in Waco (Yes, she did... none of that 173 times &#039;I Don&#039;t Recall&#039; bullshit that Gonz&#039; pulled.)

So if you want to do a generalization of what the AG does, then OK. They both represent the political leadership in power at the time. But to infer that Reno was as bad as Gonzales, well... that just shows you are either trying to poke a sleeping bear with a burning stick, or you are blatantly and willfully ignoring facts that are easily available on (or in...?) the tubes of the Internets.

And as I said, Eichmann said &quot;I was just following orders&quot; while Gonz said &quot;I don&#039;t recall&quot;. Say what you want about hyperbole, over-exaggeration, reaching... He is still as guilty of wiping his ass on the Constitution as Bush, Cheney et.al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reno : Elian Gonzales was a clusterfuck from the word go. Yes, he deserves to be with his Father, but taking him from the house at gunpoint was insane and wrong. That was politics pure and simple. You don&#8217;t think it cost the Dem&#8217;s HUGE in the following election?</p>
<p>Ruby Ridge : Fucked up as it can get. Trace THAT back to Bush 1&#8242;s insane zero-tolerance policy and all the insane laws passed about how the cops can take everything you have on the mere suspicion that you are doing something illegal, and then they can keep it, sell it, do whatever. And you have no recourse.[sic] Again, that shit goes to the insane &#8216;War On Drugs&#8221; which is another example of a never-ending war. That had more to do with local agents and their office than Reno&#8217;s directly dictating policy.</p>
<p>Waco : Jim Jones for our generation. Ironically, this ended up being a training operation for many &#8216;elite forces&#8217; from around the world. And it was fucked the minute they decided to use incendiary grenades etc. to try to &#8216;flush them out&#8217;. Bad planning and worse execution. Who thought using fire in a part of Texas that is so damn dry and filled with tinder was a good idea? Just plain stupid.</p>
<p>[from Wikipedia : "The FBI became increasingly concerned that the Davidians were going to commit mass suicide, as had happened at Jonestown when 900 people killed themselves at their leader's behest. The then-newly appointed U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno approved the recommendations of the FBI to mount an assault after being told that conditions were deteriorating and children were being abused inside the compound."]<br />
Yeah&#8230; newly appointed AG who followed the recommendations of the FBI. </p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>That was not comparable to Gonzales justifying the use of torture; nor is it comparable to Reno taking full responsibility for what happened in Waco (Yes, she did&#8230; none of that 173 times &#8216;I Don&#8217;t Recall&#8217; bullshit that Gonz&#8217; pulled.)</p>
<p>So if you want to do a generalization of what the AG does, then OK. They both represent the political leadership in power at the time. But to infer that Reno was as bad as Gonzales, well&#8230; that just shows you are either trying to poke a sleeping bear with a burning stick, or you are blatantly and willfully ignoring facts that are easily available on (or in&#8230;?) the tubes of the Internets.</p>
<p>And as I said, Eichmann said &#8220;I was just following orders&#8221; while Gonz said &#8220;I don&#8217;t recall&#8221;. Say what you want about hyperbole, over-exaggeration, reaching&#8230; He is still as guilty of wiping his ass on the Constitution as Bush, Cheney et.al.</p>
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		<title>By: sommerfliesby</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/08/29/gonzales-is-chimptastic/#comment-2705</link>
		<dc:creator>sommerfliesby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why no comments on the Reno comparison I raised on the last Gonzales blurb?  Was she not a tool for the Clinton admin in the same vein?  Are ALL of them (govmnt apppointees) not &quot;working for the MAN?&quot;  Do you expect a sitting president to appoint someone with opposing views to a position like attorney general?  The door swings both ways here kids!  If the Dems take the White House in 08, I&#039;ll be interested to see the commentary that goes on in here.

Oh...and the Eichmann comparison...surely we&#039;re delving into a bit of hyperbole here, no?  That man was DIRECTLY responsible for death on a level rarely achieved in the history of mankind...Alberto...not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why no comments on the Reno comparison I raised on the last Gonzales blurb?  Was she not a tool for the Clinton admin in the same vein?  Are ALL of them (govmnt apppointees) not &#8220;working for the MAN?&#8221;  Do you expect a sitting president to appoint someone with opposing views to a position like attorney general?  The door swings both ways here kids!  If the Dems take the White House in 08, I&#8217;ll be interested to see the commentary that goes on in here.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;and the Eichmann comparison&#8230;surely we&#8217;re delving into a bit of hyperbole here, no?  That man was DIRECTLY responsible for death on a level rarely achieved in the history of mankind&#8230;Alberto&#8230;not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: bikepunk</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/08/29/gonzales-is-chimptastic/#comment-2704</link>
		<dc:creator>bikepunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=26&amp;story_id=42866

My source for that quote.</description>
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<p>My source for that quote.</p>
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		<title>By: bikepunk</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/08/29/gonzales-is-chimptastic/#comment-2703</link>
		<dc:creator>bikepunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s WORSE than Eichmann. He has never and WILL never admit wrongdoing. He&#039;s one of those old Nazis that you see still defiant saying shit like...

&quot;My only regret was that there were survivors.&quot;

Shitheel thru and thru.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s WORSE than Eichmann. He has never and WILL never admit wrongdoing. He&#8217;s one of those old Nazis that you see still defiant saying shit like&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;My only regret was that there were survivors.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shitheel thru and thru.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/08/29/gonzales-is-chimptastic/#comment-2702</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;When is sunlight, the best disinfectant, going to shine on the Bush Regime?&lt;/b&gt;

You can bet your life that this bunch has inspired so much pure, visceral hatred that there are those who will leave no stone unturned in the pursuit of justice.  I&#039;d even go so far to say that the successful prosecution of key players in this administration will be a necessary but by no means sufficient step toward reagaining our standing in the World community.  Rove &lt;i&gt;et al&lt;/i&gt; can run, but they can&#039;t hide.  Here&#039;s to seeing AbuGonzales duck-walked out the door of his heinous law firm in the company of some US Marshals some time in the next year.  That&#039;s a Bear Republic Racer V in my hand for those of you keeping score at home.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>When is sunlight, the best disinfectant, going to shine on the Bush Regime?</b></p>
<p>You can bet your life that this bunch has inspired so much pure, visceral hatred that there are those who will leave no stone unturned in the pursuit of justice.  I&#8217;d even go so far to say that the successful prosecution of key players in this administration will be a necessary but by no means sufficient step toward reagaining our standing in the World community.  Rove <i>et al</i> can run, but they can&#8217;t hide.  Here&#8217;s to seeing AbuGonzales duck-walked out the door of his heinous law firm in the company of some US Marshals some time in the next year.  That&#8217;s a Bear Republic Racer V in my hand for those of you keeping score at home&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Bush43</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/08/29/gonzales-is-chimptastic/#comment-2700</link>
		<dc:creator>Bush43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 04:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abu Gonzalez needs to be in jail. He is an &quot;Eichmann&quot; in Bush&#039;s Hitler Times Remake.

&quot;I was just following orders!&quot;

He just did whatever Bush requested. The memo&#039;s that justified torture were terrible, and illegal, but I think the things that are most repulsive about Dear Young Alberto are his totally incompetent, incomplete, reviews of death penalty prisoners before Bush had them executed.  Sure, most of these people were guilty, I am sure. But they were owed a substantial review of their cases as is the last-ditch review before a sitting Governor. Alberto and Bush denied them that, by their own accounts. Even the diligence required in an absolute life and death matter, was not worth their attention. The banality of evil, indeed.

Alberto  will almost certainly be an extremely well paid incompetent token Ann Rand Fountainhead at some connected and heinous major law firm. What he deserves is a full accounting of his actions and probably life in jail.

When is sunlight, the best disinfectant, going to shine on the Bush Regime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abu Gonzalez needs to be in jail. He is an &#8220;Eichmann&#8221; in Bush&#8217;s Hitler Times Remake.</p>
<p>&#8220;I was just following orders!&#8221;</p>
<p>He just did whatever Bush requested. The memo&#8217;s that justified torture were terrible, and illegal, but I think the things that are most repulsive about Dear Young Alberto are his totally incompetent, incomplete, reviews of death penalty prisoners before Bush had them executed.  Sure, most of these people were guilty, I am sure. But they were owed a substantial review of their cases as is the last-ditch review before a sitting Governor. Alberto and Bush denied them that, by their own accounts. Even the diligence required in an absolute life and death matter, was not worth their attention. The banality of evil, indeed.</p>
<p>Alberto  will almost certainly be an extremely well paid incompetent token Ann Rand Fountainhead at some connected and heinous major law firm. What he deserves is a full accounting of his actions and probably life in jail.</p>
<p>When is sunlight, the best disinfectant, going to shine on the Bush Regime?</p>
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