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		<title>By: Ellis Dee</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/07/28/press-release-by-stolen-underground/#comment-25796</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellis Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booo hooooo, quite being whining Decanio and grow some Nutz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booo hooooo, quite being whining Decanio and grow some Nutz</p>
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		<title>By: stixxx</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/07/28/press-release-by-stolen-underground/#comment-25328</link>
		<dc:creator>stixxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of you will be glad to know that Matt Decanio is doing well. He  moved back in with his mother and father 9 months ago, currently is unemployed, and is still working hard with stolen underground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of you will be glad to know that Matt Decanio is doing well. He  moved back in with his mother and father 9 months ago, currently is unemployed, and is still working hard with stolen underground.</p>
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		<title>By: ManFromTheMitten</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/07/28/press-release-by-stolen-underground/#comment-1474</link>
		<dc:creator>ManFromTheMitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Decanio is a fucking baby because of one reason...He is not on the payroll anymore...Pure and simple.  His mouth would be stapled shut if he was still making 50k a year as a bike racer.  Believe it that Tyler, Floyd, and of course Lance are still making bank, why? because they still keep their mouths shut and ride the gravy train.  Good or Bad, that is the way it is.    Luckily now he has mom and dad&#039;s trust fund to back his website, his mouth, and the rest of his bullshit, &quot;I will purposly finish at the back of the pack in NRC races crap.&quot; If you want to be an expert, go get a college degree in biology/chemisty and fucking work for WADA or IOC.  Until then spare us the victim bullshit, nobody made you stick a needle in your ass or arm or where ever.  I didn&#039;t, I just quit and got a masters degree....and ride everyday because I love the sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decanio is a fucking baby because of one reason&#8230;He is not on the payroll anymore&#8230;Pure and simple.  His mouth would be stapled shut if he was still making 50k a year as a bike racer.  Believe it that Tyler, Floyd, and of course Lance are still making bank, why? because they still keep their mouths shut and ride the gravy train.  Good or Bad, that is the way it is.    Luckily now he has mom and dad&#8217;s trust fund to back his website, his mouth, and the rest of his bullshit, &#8220;I will purposly finish at the back of the pack in NRC races crap.&#8221; If you want to be an expert, go get a college degree in biology/chemisty and fucking work for WADA or IOC.  Until then spare us the victim bullshit, nobody made you stick a needle in your ass or arm or where ever.  I didn&#8217;t, I just quit and got a masters degree&#8230;.and ride everyday because I love the sport.</p>
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		<title>By: bikesgonewild</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/07/28/press-release-by-stolen-underground/#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator>bikesgonewild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 05:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sit in rapt attention, reading &amp; picking up info from the above contributers. Plenty of interesting &amp; contrasting points are being made.

                        BUT

There is something intrinsically unbalanced about DeCanio&#039;s standing on a soapbox &amp; ranting, &quot;SEE ME AS VICTIM&quot;. Anything worthwhile he might have to  offer  gets negated w/ the act. Not to say the man doesn&#039;t speak the truth as he knows it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sit in rapt attention, reading &amp; picking up info from the above contributers. Plenty of interesting &amp; contrasting points are being made.</p>
<p>                        BUT</p>
<p>There is something intrinsically unbalanced about DeCanio&#8217;s standing on a soapbox &amp; ranting, &#8220;SEE ME AS VICTIM&#8221;. Anything worthwhile he might have to  offer  gets negated w/ the act. Not to say the man doesn&#8217;t speak the truth as he knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: pirata</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/07/28/press-release-by-stolen-underground/#comment-1469</link>
		<dc:creator>pirata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 04:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too lazy to look up the timing, but EPO would only give you a benefit if you had a lower hematocrit than those you are competing against, and for years hematocrit was the only thing that could be tested...so, EPO would be good if you had a low hematocrit, but if it was naturally close to 50, than you wouldn&#039;t have much to gain.  34?  Yeah, it would help level the playing field.  

So what was Lance&#039;s magic transformation?  hard to say, but in fairness I dont&#039; think you can assume his sudden prosperity was due to EPO.  And I heard the B samples were never truly confirmed, that it was just speculation, no solid data ever released etc.

Probably just Schumi&#039;s wonderful training tips!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too lazy to look up the timing, but EPO would only give you a benefit if you had a lower hematocrit than those you are competing against, and for years hematocrit was the only thing that could be tested&#8230;so, EPO would be good if you had a low hematocrit, but if it was naturally close to 50, than you wouldn&#8217;t have much to gain.  34?  Yeah, it would help level the playing field.  </p>
<p>So what was Lance&#8217;s magic transformation?  hard to say, but in fairness I dont&#8217; think you can assume his sudden prosperity was due to EPO.  And I heard the B samples were never truly confirmed, that it was just speculation, no solid data ever released etc.</p>
<p>Probably just Schumi&#8217;s wonderful training tips!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still crazy as a shit house rat after all these years Decanio eh?

You got dumped from your former team, not because of your anti doping message, but the way that you presented it. Instead of trying to do something positive, you kept making accusations that did not hold up, to, well, anything. I hate whiney rich kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still crazy as a shit house rat after all these years Decanio eh?</p>
<p>You got dumped from your former team, not because of your anti doping message, but the way that you presented it. Instead of trying to do something positive, you kept making accusations that did not hold up, to, well, anything. I hate whiney rich kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/07/28/press-release-by-stolen-underground/#comment-1462</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am the undisputed expert and leader of the anti-doping movement.&quot;

Tell me he really didn&#039;t write that.  Please.  Decanio is a few tacos short of a Fiesta Platter and is a walking advertisment for the need for more mental health resources in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am the undisputed expert and leader of the anti-doping movement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tell me he really didn&#8217;t write that.  Please.  Decanio is a few tacos short of a Fiesta Platter and is a walking advertisment for the need for more mental health resources in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: gob</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/07/28/press-release-by-stolen-underground/#comment-1461</link>
		<dc:creator>gob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with DeCanio&#039;s anti-doping ideal, but I can&#039;t stand reading him, and I can&#039;t imagine listening to him, as his tone is generally about one step from the guy who hollers at ghosts on the subway or your local street corner. I&#039;ve tried to read his site, but it&#039;s just so amatuerish and generally bat-shit insane.

He made a choice to dope, and the string of events both before he took epo and then after, clearly fucked with his head. He has this whole messiah complex thing going on that just makes me cringe anytime he says anything.

He has cited Dave Clinger&#039;s descent into facial-tattooing madness, along with his own battles with mental illness, as resulting from taking EPO, but thousands of patients have been legitamately prescribed EPO, and they all haven&#039;t gone Maori. I think it&#039;s the shame, anger, and sense of victimhood that has caused at least a portion of Decanio and Clinger&#039;s madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with DeCanio&#8217;s anti-doping ideal, but I can&#8217;t stand reading him, and I can&#8217;t imagine listening to him, as his tone is generally about one step from the guy who hollers at ghosts on the subway or your local street corner. I&#8217;ve tried to read his site, but it&#8217;s just so amatuerish and generally bat-shit insane.</p>
<p>He made a choice to dope, and the string of events both before he took epo and then after, clearly fucked with his head. He has this whole messiah complex thing going on that just makes me cringe anytime he says anything.</p>
<p>He has cited Dave Clinger&#8217;s descent into facial-tattooing madness, along with his own battles with mental illness, as resulting from taking EPO, but thousands of patients have been legitamately prescribed EPO, and they all haven&#8217;t gone Maori. I think it&#8217;s the shame, anger, and sense of victimhood that has caused at least a portion of Decanio and Clinger&#8217;s madness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bush43</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/07/28/press-release-by-stolen-underground/#comment-1458</link>
		<dc:creator>Bush43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For research purposes, B-samples were run for the presence of synthetic EPO on samples that predate the invention of the EPO test. 

Some of those B-samples tested positive. A reporter was, under a ruse, able to get Lance Armstrong to sign a release for his test records. Using the numbers that came from Lance Armstrong test, obtained by this release, the reporter was able to match those numbers to the research test numbers of the B-sample experiments.

Those showed that samples that matched the numbers given to Lance Armstrong had synthetic EPO in them.

It can&#039;t be considered a positive test, because it is outside the protocol of the testing procedure for racers. 

But outside of the sphere of legality, given Lance Armstrong&#039;s prior history of not such a great time trialist, and just a modest climber at best on long mountain cols, and that almost all Euro pros were using EPO by the late 90&#039;s, just to keep up, and that EPO was undetectable until about 2002-2003 or so, and this B-sample study, and Armstrong&#039;s utter domination of both the ITTs and the mountains, it&#039;s completely irrational to say that Armstrong wasn&#039;t using EPO in the late 90&#039;s. 

Without EPO at that time, it would be impossible to beat other top riders who WERE using it. The advantage of EPO is that great. You&#039;re going to be several percent faster with EPO up a 20km climb as in the Tour de France. That&#039;s minutes, minutes you could no way afford to give up if you wanted a yellow jersey in 1999.

There also is a long, ugly shitty history of USOC and so on covering up of positive tests by US athletes. This has been partially documented in the press. Some day, we will probably know a lot more, but enough information is out to know that athletes and US &quot;authorities&quot; were working together to cover up US athlete drug boosting so that we would have winning athletes in the Olympic Games and in international competitions.

Many athletes are jerks. But one can be a jerk and speak the truth. They are not mutually exclusive.

In the sexual abuse cases of priests on little boys, one of the constant tactics was to attack the little boys and the families of the little boys and whomever stuck up for the little boys.

The whole attacking of the athletes who try to lay out the drug abuse game, is extremely psychologically similar to the way the Catholic church and other parishioners would attack the little boys and their defenders. Now we know how that whole sordid ordeal was constructed. It is ugly to watch the same tactics be used against the riders who come out against doping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For research purposes, B-samples were run for the presence of synthetic EPO on samples that predate the invention of the EPO test. </p>
<p>Some of those B-samples tested positive. A reporter was, under a ruse, able to get Lance Armstrong to sign a release for his test records. Using the numbers that came from Lance Armstrong test, obtained by this release, the reporter was able to match those numbers to the research test numbers of the B-sample experiments.</p>
<p>Those showed that samples that matched the numbers given to Lance Armstrong had synthetic EPO in them.</p>
<p>It can&#8217;t be considered a positive test, because it is outside the protocol of the testing procedure for racers. </p>
<p>But outside of the sphere of legality, given Lance Armstrong&#8217;s prior history of not such a great time trialist, and just a modest climber at best on long mountain cols, and that almost all Euro pros were using EPO by the late 90&#8242;s, just to keep up, and that EPO was undetectable until about 2002-2003 or so, and this B-sample study, and Armstrong&#8217;s utter domination of both the ITTs and the mountains, it&#8217;s completely irrational to say that Armstrong wasn&#8217;t using EPO in the late 90&#8242;s. </p>
<p>Without EPO at that time, it would be impossible to beat other top riders who WERE using it. The advantage of EPO is that great. You&#8217;re going to be several percent faster with EPO up a 20km climb as in the Tour de France. That&#8217;s minutes, minutes you could no way afford to give up if you wanted a yellow jersey in 1999.</p>
<p>There also is a long, ugly shitty history of USOC and so on covering up of positive tests by US athletes. This has been partially documented in the press. Some day, we will probably know a lot more, but enough information is out to know that athletes and US &#8220;authorities&#8221; were working together to cover up US athlete drug boosting so that we would have winning athletes in the Olympic Games and in international competitions.</p>
<p>Many athletes are jerks. But one can be a jerk and speak the truth. They are not mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>In the sexual abuse cases of priests on little boys, one of the constant tactics was to attack the little boys and the families of the little boys and whomever stuck up for the little boys.</p>
<p>The whole attacking of the athletes who try to lay out the drug abuse game, is extremely psychologically similar to the way the Catholic church and other parishioners would attack the little boys and their defenders. Now we know how that whole sordid ordeal was constructed. It is ugly to watch the same tactics be used against the riders who come out against doping.</p>
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		<title>By: jg</title>
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		<dc:creator>jg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly - until he can put 2 coherent sentences together I&#039;m not going to call him the undisputed expert on anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly &#8211; until he can put 2 coherent sentences together I&#8217;m not going to call him the undisputed expert on anything.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://drunkcyclist.com/2007/07/28/press-release-by-stolen-underground/#comment-1456</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good message, but the messenger could use a little work.</description>
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		<title>By: t-bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>t-bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Decanio is an little crybaby who presents rumors and innuendo and tries to play them off as facts.  He should go away.  A glaring mis-statement can be found in the first paragraph of his letter:  &quot;I told you about Lance and he tested positive for EPO.&quot;  Lance never tested positive for anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Decanio is an little crybaby who presents rumors and innuendo and tries to play them off as facts.  He should go away.  A glaring mis-statement can be found in the first paragraph of his letter:  &#8220;I told you about Lance and he tested positive for EPO.&#8221;  Lance never tested positive for anything.</p>
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